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In reality the majority of the price of something goes into the cost of buying the materials for something and then manufacturing it.

Yes but by shipping those jobs overseas you create jobs there and the customer still gets lower prices. I did not ignore people getting paid for an economy to function.

So ... you admit that Scandinavia has great economic liberty ... which you like.

... even though the Scandinavians allow "welfare bums" to breed like rabbits.

Why are you arguing with me then? There are a ton of people out there who would call you a commie. Why not argue with them? Why not tell them that Scandinavia has a freer economy than America?

I'm obviously not a big threat to the world that you consider to be ideal, given that we both have so much respect for the Nordic model.



I'm pretty sure that people who are obsessed with money usually become bankers ... or accountants ... or stock traders ... or business owners.

If those inventors were truly driven by a money obsession, they would be trying to own a company, not design its products.

Only in undeveloped places. In the developed world the poor are increasing and the middle class is shrinking. In the US the poor are actually getting poorer because our f*****g politicians lie about the real level of inflation and refuse to raise the minimum wage. The problem isn't due to immigration either. That's just an obnoxious scapegoat thrown out there by the right to keep people's eyes off the billionaire class. The problem is capitalism is reaching it's peak and stagnating in the developed world. Even the expert economists at the OECD admit it. It's the real reason everyone is pissed off and turning into fascism. Everyone is afraid the west is losing its power (and it most likely is).

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Why do you right-wingers constantly b***h about immigrants coming, pushing down wages, and taking your jobs, yet shipping jobs overseas is perfectly A-OK? It's the same damn thing. You're completely irrational. Who gives a s**t if the customer gets lower prices if they can't even find a job.

Poor people are becoming richer because of the social safety net.

When capitalism was originally created, the proletariat were dirt poor. A social safety net solved that.

You say a country with a social safety net is still capitalist? Fine. This means that these two different varieties of capitalism are very different from one another.

You can't give "capitalism" all the credit, when only one type of capitalism helps poor people in the slightest.

I have never spoken against Scandinavia's economy nor claimed they have a problem with "Welfare bums" (that's an Americanism) Scandinavian culture looks down on people who exploit the system.

Off my head I can think of James Dyson I know he only makes hoovers, but I do imagine a lot of inventors would like to own their own company so they control their ideas.

I think society would be much better off if we had stronger IP laws and bankers were using their brains productively.

No. Organized labor was mostly responsible. Now organized labor is all but destroyed.

... but the business owner still makes more than the employee does.

... even though the employee usually has to work harder.

Immigration is absolutely making us poorer here in the UK they have increased UK property prices by 20%, they drive down wages too.

I do not accept people are getting poorer in the developed world. Look at a 30 year old today to a 30 year old 30 years ago, a phone you can carry around with you that has more power than any computer from 30 years ago, being able to travel the world for an affordable price, nicer food. We are much richer.

Because the business owner risked money, the employee makes money even if the business owner doesn't.

How utterly stupid. Why don't you state some facts and figure, not just "muh i-phones". Having a f*****g phone is not of much help when you can't afford basics like rent and food. There are phones in India too, and also people who survive by rutting through garbage. The existence of technological luxuries doesn't prove that a society as a whole is more wealthy. It only proves that technology has advanced.

I have some sympathy for concerns over immigration. It has to be done at a slow enough pace such that people can successfully integrate into the culture and there are enough jobs for them to join the workforce. I'm not a supporter of free-for-all immigration. My problem is you fail to recognize that the source of the immigration problem is itself due to capitalism! For that you are nothing but a blind pathetic cucked cheer-leader for capitalism.

You also refuse to realize that the west would be experiencing economic stagnation regardless of immigration because you've been sold a lie by your masters. By all means, keep blaming immigrants for the stagnation brought on by capitalists destroying unions and shipping production to the third world. How patriotic your heroes are.

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Yea. They risked money by closing factories and shipping jobs to Vietnam, just so they could give themselves a 200% raise. Pathetic. You people are so cucked. You can't face the fact that capitalism itself is failing, so you have to come up with other people to blame for why the economy isn't working like it used to. It's so scummy.

If only we all could just print infinite money to smake solve our problems. I want a Legal money printing machine.

The USA middle class is shrinking and they aren’t joining the upper class.

Whether you believe it or not but material wealth is wealth. Its not just the existence of new technology that has enriched us but the lower prices too. Capitalism is not perfect yes there are people cannot afford food or rent but socialist system people starve.