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16 Jul 2018, 4:58 pm

At least Trump actually has some policies. The Dems is just to have a fit about Russia and scream about racism.


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16 Jul 2018, 5:34 pm

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The Re-puuube party has lost it's mind.


It's become the Southern Strategy Frankenstein that only lashes out at minorities to spur on its base.

Most people can only name who, and what, Trump is against more than they can name what he has actually come forward about being "for" - heck most can count off more of the nicknames he's thrown around than anything he stands for as well.

It may be working now, but there's only so long Republicans can hide behind that because he has already driven many right-wingers away from the GOP and into labeling themselves as independent.

In a relatively recent poll (2017) - 37% saw the Democratic party favorably, 30% saw the Republican party favorably. Left is leaning away from D because it's become more capitalistic than many of the people in its party. Meanwhile many have left R because it has become the Southern Strategy Frankenstein.



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16 Jul 2018, 5:52 pm

Anything to the right of the Social Democratic Party of Sweden is fascist.

It should be illegal to so much as criticize anybody who isn't a white, straight, cis-gender Christian male. Any such criticism should classified as hate speech, even if that person's race, religion, sexual orientation wasn't the reason for said criticism.

#dumptrump #gosweden #trumpsucks #lofvenrules


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16 Jul 2018, 6:00 pm

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Anything to the right of the Social Democratic Party of Sweden is fascist.

It should be illegal to so much as criticize anybody who isn't a white, straight, cis-gender Christian male. Any such criticism should classified as hate speech, even if that person's race, religion, sexual orientation wasn't the reason for said criticism.

#dumptrump #gosweden #trumpsucks #lofvenrules


You're joking right?


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16 Jul 2018, 6:02 pm

Spooky_Mulder wrote:
NoClearMind53 wrote:
The Re-puuube party has lost it's mind.


It's become the Southern Strategy Frankenstein that only lashes out at minorities to spur on its base.

Most people can only name who, and what, Trump is against more than they can name what he has actually come forward about being "for" - heck most can count off more of the nicknames he's thrown around than anything he stands for as well.

It may be working now, but there's only so long Republicans can hide behind that because he has already driven many right-wingers away from the GOP and into labeling themselves as independent.

In a relatively recent poll (2017) - 37% saw the Democratic party favorably, 30% saw the Republican party favorably. Left is leaning away from D because it's become more capitalistic than many of the people in its party. Meanwhile many have left R because it has become the Southern Strategy Frankenstein.


Are you relying on the same kind of polls that said Hillary was almost 100% guaranteed to win? :lol:


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16 Jul 2018, 6:04 pm

Hmm, polls said Hillary would get more votes than Trump. Who won the popular vote again?

I know, I know "lugenpresse! Lugenpresse!"

I'd say the funniest thing is seeing Trump supporters on twitter even screaming that Fox News is "fake news" now every single time they actually have the balls to call him out in front of his loyal base of followers.

Trump supporters don't like statistics or facts - they like happy meals.

You'd think after two years Trump supporters would have the ability of coming up with something new. It's impossible to take any side whose last resort is to scream "fake news" seriously.



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16 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm

They went up to around 98% chance that she would win THE ELECTION. Nothing to do with the popular vote. That was only mentioned among the hysterical intolerant tantrums after they lost the election. Hillary and Bill were jumping up and down celebrating :lol: But hours later she was locked in her hotel room crying in a fit haha.


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16 Jul 2018, 6:13 pm

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They went up to around 98% chance that she would win THE ELECTION. Nothing to do with the popular vote. That was only mentioned among the hysterical intolerant tantrums after they lost the election. Hillary and Bill were jumping up and down celebrating :lol: But hours later she was locked in her hotel room crying in a fit haha.


Yeah, because they were slow and didn't figure the electoral college into it.

Intolerant tantrums?

You do know Trump was literally screaming for his supporters to revolt if they lost, right?

You do know George W. Bush protestors led by Roger Stone frightened the vote counters so much that they basically handed him the election to stop the right wing insanity, right? (the same Stone calling for Trump revolts mentioned above)

You do know right-wing Tea Parties marched in the streets with signs literally speaking about lynching Obama, right?

Or does none of that count?

I've never been for her - just against an orange ogre who is even a pitiful excuse for a human being.

The two reasons I can't take the right-wing seriously: (1) they always resort to screaming "fake" and (2) obvious selective amnesia.



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16 Jul 2018, 6:19 pm

Bahaha What??? These 'experts' were giving Clinton the election. Look at the Young Turks election day meltdown. Probably the funniest thing in history.

I said in another thread that Bush cheated. Yet moron Liberal TV stars are now cuddling up for pictures with the mass murderer.

I'm not right wing. The idiots who wanted to lynch Obama are just as moronic and sick. Obama was a fraud though. He bombed 7 countries. Bombed Pakistan after 3 days in office.


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16 Jul 2018, 6:27 pm

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Bahaha What??? These 'experts' were giving Clinton the election. Look at the Young Turks election day meltdown. Probably the funniest thing in history.

I said in another thread that Bush cheated. Yet moron Liberal TV stars are now cuddling up for pictures with the mass murderer.

I'm not right wing. The idiots who wanted to lynch Obama are just as moronic and sick. Obama was a fraud though. He bombed 7 countries. Bombed Pakistan after 3 days in office.


Yeah, they were narcissists in thinking everything was set in stone. I never said different. Their narcissism is part of what cost the election because that led the left into believing it was safe to either protest vote or to not vote at all. All I said was statistics showed more people would vote Clinton over Trump and - more people voted Clinton over Trump.

So Obama is a fraud for bombing countries, yet Trump who is already on the way to killing more is a hero?

Trump supporters, lol.

(also I'm not an Obama supporter either, I had to protest him as both an lgbtq and immigrants rights activist)



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16 Jul 2018, 6:36 pm

All the talk was about Clinton winning the election beforehand.

I am not a Trump supporter. I have said he is an Israeli puppet. It is just people criticise him for the wrong reasons. And yes, they should be criticising him for dropping more bombs a day than Obama even.


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16 Jul 2018, 6:40 pm

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All the talk was about Clinton winning the election beforehand.

I am not a Trump supporter. I have said he is an Israeli puppet. It is just people criticise him for the wrong reasons. And yes, they should be criticising him for dropping more bombs a day than Obama even.


I never said any different. I said the statistics showed how people would vote and it was accurate to how people would vote, it just didn't bring the electoral college into account as much as it should have.

One of those "wrong" reasons - evidently - is Trump lashing out at minorities through policy actions and vilification.



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16 Jul 2018, 7:08 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
At least Trump actually has some policies. The Dems is just to have a fit about Russia and scream about racism.

I don't care. I'm just irritated by the right-wing partisan habit of saying "Democrat Party" instead of "Democratic Party". It makes you sound really moronic.



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18 Jul 2018, 2:46 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Anything to the right of the Social Democratic Party of Sweden is fascist.

It should be illegal to so much as criticize anybody who isn't a white, straight, cis-gender Christian male. Any such criticism should classified as hate speech, even if that person's race, religion, sexual orientation wasn't the reason for said criticism.

#dumptrump #gosweden #trumpsucks #lofvenrules


You're joking right?



This was facetiousness on my part. I don't like Trump, but I am actually more to the center politically, and I was just venting, out of frustration over the center being seemingly squeezed out.

As for hate speech, I would not object to things like Holocaust denial being criminalized, and threats of violence against certain people because of their race should definitely be taken seriously. Mere criticism should not be classified as hate speech, and I am mixed on whether verses from the Bible or Quran that say homosexuality is a sin should be classified that way.


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