Why is suicide illegal?

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There’s good, too, you know.

I don’t believe suicide should be a criminal offense, either.

But I feel it’s a waste.

When the military kills other countries' military, or "friendly fire" , it is legal. No 5150. Same with executions.

Why don't people that want to commit suicide just join the military?

Getting into the military involves a psychiatric evaluation

Catch 22


Yes, joining the military is a job choice , (like firefighter), but some recruits do not have much of a choice, because they can't afford college


"Financial discrimination"

Why do most laws exist? To discourage certain behaviours. It may seem odd since you can't directly punish the offender of a successful suicide, but in times long past in the UK, the offender would have been denied a Christian burial and his family dispossessed if it was a man. How many suicides that might have prevented, I'm not sure.

Yup, such loving tolerant people who think all life has value.

"all life has value" to whom?

Something could have a large or small, positive or negative value

Something could be "below salvage value" (accounting terminology)


You can't measure the "value" of a person

Not everything that has "value" has enough "value" to justify keeping it




Some books define a symptom of clinical depression as "feelings of worthlessness, hopelessness, or guilt"


"Worthlessness"?

Maybe the people that act like they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, are the ones that ought to have been diagnosed with "delusion of grandeur" and Narcissistic personality disorder

I'm pretty worthless at the moment.

For a long time,. I have been worthless

But worthlessness is not a capital crime

But why? Why keeping someone alive who has no future? Why keep someone alive who's life is miserable? Why keep someone alive who never will be a contributing member of society anyway, if he wants to die? If you have several mental illnesses and disabilities, why keep living? What exactly makes live preferable over death, when life consinst mostly of misery?

Maybe someone profits financially from having as many people as possible alive, for as long as possible

^ Exactly.

I mean does anybody actually believe that the fat cats running our governments really give two s**ts about the wellbeing of each individual worker ant within the nest? They keep us alive because it benefits them with money, labour, and protection from enemies but they also view every single one of us as expendable.

I agree, and I think no one should be forced to live against their will, and in addition I think it should be a right to not have to die painfully and messy (IOW euthanasia should be allowed for those who want it).

Suicide is just a waste.

You never know what the future holds for you.

Unless you're on death row or serving life in prison.

But for you, and for Fos, and shortfatbalduglyman, much potential happiness still awaits.

It's different for those terminally ill and in constant pain, or those on death row or serving life in prison.

But most other people have value yo offer society, not necessarily economic or monetary value but a subtle value, such as talents, art, writing, the ability to help others, even bring happiness to animals: things that don't have a measurable value. Forget for a while any arguments against suicide that are based on religion or political motives,

I am not terminally ill, but chronically ill.

No it is not rational, otherwise they would not keep disabled people alive, who will probably never work anyway. It has not really to do with money, more with religion. And christian "morality".