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Who needs Joseph Goebbels when you have the internet and a never ending supply of gullible people refusing to use critical thinking foaming at the mouth to consume any confirmation bias they can get their hands on. What a sad time we live in, the age of information and willful ignorance.

The problem with the information age and the internet that came with it is that a lot of the information that people put on the internet is crap. We have information at our fingertips with which we can educate ourselves and piles and piles of crap to sort through to get to the good stuff, while at the same time we don't properly teach people how to critically analyze information and its sources and thereby sort the good stuff from the crap. The result is a largely (and dangerously) gullible and credulous population.

There was a black guy with them??

That comment is so ridiculous, not agreeing with BLM opinions is a form of white supremacy? (that is a radical left-wing ideology, people who don't agree with us are racist nazi's)How exactly do you make that connection? Twiter and facebook, my, what valid resources of information.

When the information you're looking for is where people stand on an issue and what they talk about, then reading their Facebook and Twitter content seems like a good place to start, as those are the venues most people use to share their views. If the guys are saying racist things on Facebook and are associated with hate groups, that is important information to have when evaluating said people's position on an issue like racism.

Also, surprise!--It's possible for black people to hold racist views against black people. Just like it's possible for women to internalize misogyny and embrace things like sexist fundamental Christianity that oppresses them. It's also possible for a black guy to get wrapped up with a group like this and used as a token, which it seems is exactly how this particular guy is being used by this group and I feel sorry for him that he probably doesn't see it--or even worse he does see it and his self-esteem is so low that he's willing to give up his dignity for acceptance from this group.

Surprise! It's also very common for left-wing individuals to label anyone who disagrees with their opinion as racist. Sorry, but racism has a definition and it's not disagreeing with BLM opinions.

It's comments like that that are the reason why I believe you just want to argue with the left and will automatically say whatever you think is the opposite of what someone on the left would say. It's the only way I can make sense of your comments. That and you sound just like all the anti-left "rational sceptics" on the internet, saying the same sort of talking points they do.

Well I'm sorry for replying with a fact you don't like, that doesn't make people part of a conspiracy. Why do you seem to always say absurd things like that? It makes you rather unpleasant to have a conversation with. All I'm doing is talking and expressing my opinion just like everybody else. Usually people point to some kind of evidence or logical assessments they use to back their opinions, you seem to point towards conspiracies where people disagree with you for the sake of disagreeing with you. Of course with this line of thinking you will completely ignore the fact that I have agreed with you about things in the past.

There were in fact Jews who had supported Hitler in Germany, and American Jews who have occasionally appeared in the ranks of racist groups. There was in fact one idiot who happened to be black who supported the Neo-Confederate movement.

When a group is consistently found to be falsifying/sodomising the truth, you would expect an entire loss of credibility...
The hard left is renowned for ignoring factual information and for embracing groupthink over here in Oz...
And yet they keep on going on and on like the energiser bunny with impunity...
They must eat a lot of carrots...


https://youtu.be/KjwcfUDnMEM

The capacity for hooman stupidity is legendary in the universe...
There is even a footnote about this in The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Universe...

The point is, just because people claim to be patriots, a word that has nothing to do with racism, does not mean they are associated with racism. Many x-military call themselves patriots, many constitutionalists call themselves patriotic. White supremacists call themselves white, so does that make it racist to call yourself white, in my opinion, no. It would be foolish to insist that you can't use a word simply because racist people have identified as the same word. Another example, if a group of Americans where very racist and identified as americans, hence 'white america', does that mean 'american' is now off limits to use unless you are racist? Many people of different rasces who are not racist identify as patriots, therefor there is an obvious break down in logic here. Here is a famous man, Tiny, listen to his story, he was a victim of falling for left wing lies and decided to infiltrate the 'racist patriots' then learned that they actually arent racist at all and ended up joining them and also becomming a 'proud boy' which was a group of people who banned together to battle antifa communists because they kept attacking people and labeling them nazi's simply because they had different political views. They even attacked freedom of speech rally's which contained democrats even, (anyone who supported free speech and marched with them would be labeled a nazi for something that had absolutely noting to do with racism).

By the way, it becomes a problem when people start insisting that people are pretending to not be racist and that anyone of another race that may be with them is a paid prop or just another undercover racist. With that level of conspiracy thought you could suggest everyone on the planet is secretly racist. White supremacists seem to be pretty upfront about being racist.

White nationalists have learned that being upfront with their hate only loses people. So they've been using code words to disguise their hate since the Obama years.
Of course not all people who call themselves patriots are racists, but since at least as early as the Clinton years, white nationalists have been referring to themselves as the Patriot Movement.

Once again you are getting your words crossed up. Nationalism has nothing to do with racism, even if racist people have used the title. Gandhi was a nationalist, he was most certainly not racist, just because you are a nationalist and happen to be white, that doesn't mean you are a white supremacist.

Even if all nationalists aren't racists, it's common knowledge now that it's become intertwined with racism today to the point that the likes of Gandhi wouldn't be using the term if he lived in our times.

Gandhi was a "nationalist" because he wanted Indian sovereignty.

He wanted India to become an independent country--not a colony of Great Britain.

Well said...
Hoowah!

All societies seem to venerate emotions in all its forms...
The opiate of the people...
I have concluded it is overwhelmingly a neurotypical thing...
And there is nothing we can do about it...
Rational discussion can never win over emotionalists...

Truly, the inmates have control of the asylum... EEP!