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True. It is also a matter of opinion if the lives of animals should be treated as as valuable as those of humans. Plants live as well. And bacteria as far as I know. Do their lives matter as much as those of animals and/or humans? Depends on who you ask; to some they might, to some they might not.

I suppose it all comes down to this: everyone has a right to have an opinion on everything, but it's vice to think twice before one lets others know about it. It's also everyone's own business whose opinions they listen or value, but in most cases the people whose opinions are listened to are either people who A the person knows and/or respects, B are official professinals on the matter or C, have a lot of useful life experience on the matter.

I never learn when my GF is pre menstrual so when she starts with what are irrational things imo it drives me insane , only after a blazing row I realise it's PMT so I let it go. I can't even broach PMT as that's a catalyst in it's self.

I wouldn't tell you 'to get over it' but I would try to logically explain why you are acting this way ( as in my experience women don't realise it's the PMT , or the other one is they do it and cant control it ) and I am not the scum of the earth , you just think it at the moment. This conversation usually only happens once per girlfriend then I am shutdown.

Funny you mention bacteria, I had the same thoughts later on. One could even debate on whether a virus's life holds value, in particular situations they actually do. I remeber hearing about some viruses that can live in your stomach and make you crave particular foods. Value of life in general is opinionated and changes from person to person.

Discrimination and/or censorship on the basis of one's identity (race, biological sex, sexuality, etc.) is NOT okay in any means.

Sometimes when you express an opinion about something you know nothing about nor ever experienced, you make yourself look stupid and I have to decide if you are worth talking to if you are so adamant about it.

Sometimes people get too emotionally evolved in a conversation and lose the ability to comprehend words, it's easy to tell when this happens because people will repeatedly make claims that were never made.

The statement about experience toppling all is not always accurate. Take pregnancy for one, a woman experiences the discomfort of pregnancy, her experience would mean she knows more about how it feels, the discomfort. That does not mean she actually knows more about pregnancy than her doctor, that doesn't mean she always knows what's best, that doesn't mean that she automatically wins a debate in whether her unborn child poses any value.

Take peanuts for example, we have a peanut allergy problem that is getting out of control because mothers were informed to avoid peanuts during pregnancy which lead to the babies within having no tolerance to peanuts thus causing peanut allergies to increase among people.

The value of life is not dependant upon one person, it's an opinionated mater where many wgae in on a debate and make a decision. Take for example an individual who believes life holds no value and they go out on a muders rage to satisfy there urge to watch others suffer and die. To this individual they have decided that life hold no value and thus what they are doing is no problem. Others don't see it that way and place value on life thus they have set rules to prevent such acts and punish thoughs involved in committing such acts.

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Sometimes people know only what they've seen on television and in the movies, or that they've heard third-hand from various acquaintances, and assume that what they've seen is the truth, and nothing can convince them otherwise.

For example, I've lost count of the number of times that I -- a former Navy sailor -- have been accused of being a brain-washed, gun-toting, wife-beating, drug-using, drunken womanizer with a girl in every port and just as many illegitimate children (none of which is true, by the way). Every effort to deny their beliefs and prove them wrong is considered further proof that those beliefs are valid.

I am the veteran in the conversation, while they have never even set foot on a military base. This somehow makes them the military experts and me the ignorant fool.

Sometimes people notice trends of sometimes arguments, lol, just had to say that one

Does not parse. Please re-state.

I was just making a joke about the string of comments starting with 'sometimes'. It was just funny to me.

This thread raises the issue of personal experience vs acquired knowledge. Does one trump the other?

When evidence clashes with testimony, I side with the evidence.. So, when vetted knowledge clashes with personal experience, I side with the vetted knowledge.

When this happens, that is when it's time to stop talking to them because you will go around in circles. And sometimes you don't need to be involved in a conversation for this to happen, I have seen people read a comment and turn it into something else making it be about them or some other issue. I'll take spanking for example, someone mentions how they used to be spanked and they hated their mother for it until they became a parent. Someone else who might have been abused as a child and were actually beaten and their caregiver called it a spanking each time, their judgment will be clouded so they attack you on your comment and experience and bring up abuse and stuff and straw mans when you never said anything about whipping a kid or slamming them with objects or leaving them welts and bruises or make it be they are not able to walk comfortably for a week. These people are too emotionally invested with a comment it's best to block them and move on and not converse with them.

Yes, I can understand that and it is true, once someone starts twisting your words filling in information you did not claim it is pretty much time to hang it up, you're not going to get anywhere and they are just going to continue to build anger. I have found a way around it though, the trick is to write one sentence at a time as a reply, it forces them to have to answer your question or address the one statement rather than write a paragraph to give them the chance to ignore most of it and stick to their enraged arguement. Even I mess up sometimes on comprehending what someone is saying and they may have to correct me, by the time they correct me I will see my flaw. I don't understand how some people get so emotional over conversations, though I do realize all people are different.

That's one of the issues with our youth today, there is a huge difference with spankings/punishment versus physical and mental abuse. One of my teachers told me once that the best way to do it is to wait until you calm down, then calmly tell your child why you are spanking them. This helps to prevent you from over doing it. Kids aren't getting punished like they should these days, people are also being over-protective which is causing a lot of people to grow up being like spoiled, rude brats. I was taught manners when I was growing up, I never hated my mom for it, and she did a good job because I'm a nice person, I do my best to treat people with respect. It's a little more of a challenge on the internet, that's a challenge for most people. Something about not having to see the person can bring the worst out of you, evidence for this is all over the Internet. In person I am an extremely nice person, I hold doors open for people, I say thank you a little too much, and I address elders with the proper words, like miss and mister. I don't feel comfortable saying you're welcome though, I just say thank you in its place.

I'd say something on this but I should probably 'stay in my lane'.

Talk about a teaser, lol.