do u think most americans are delusional
I'll answer you indirectly by pointing out in the last presidential election, most whites (even most women) voted for Trump. If you polled people now, those numbers have probably come down somewhat. But it wouldn't surprise me if at least most white men still support Trump and therefore, they're supporting white nationalism. That isn't supporting manifest destiny per se, but it is supporting or at least ignoring their desire to maintain an increasingly rigid racial caste system of the kind we had until the late 60s (the Reconstruction era excepted, but that was only about a decade). We've gone back to that in effect and b/c of the horrible and rising income inequality between races and the reemergence at least since the Reagan Administration of various forms of segregation (in education, housing, use of eminent domain to support private interests, at the expense of public ones, etc), you could definitely make the case that white America is "delusional" as you put it.
And then maybe a person next to me might say, “But my friend Laura says that eating tomatoes are better for weight loss.”
Supposedly, most of us come away from hearing such an exchange with the idea that the new mushroom information is more trustworthy than the new information from some person named Laura. Simply because some form of the word “science” is used.
That is called “scientism” and it is a type of faith like having trust in any other authority figure/institution, like a religion, government, but also a boss or parent. Because the authority says it, it carries more weight than if a non-authority said it.
If anyone is interested in this kind of thing, there’s a subsection of sociology about similar cognitive short cuts called cognitive sociology: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_sociology
So ...every society has "authority figures". And the modern West is no exception. What the poster was complaining about was that for the last four centuries the West has shifted from using the Church as the authority figure to scientists as the authority figure. But he failed to explain why he considers that to be bad.
Is he saying that we should chuck Galileo and Copernicus and go back the Geocentric Universe, and chuck Darwin, and go back to a 6000 year old earth? Or what?
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And then maybe a person next to me might say, “But my friend Laura says that eating tomatoes are better for weight loss.”
Supposedly, most of us come away from hearing such an exchange with the idea that the new mushroom information is more trustworthy than the new information from some person named Laura. Simply because some form of the word “science” is used.
That is called “scientism” and it is a type of faith like having trust in any other authority figure/institution, like a religion, government, but also a boss or parent. Because the authority says it, it carries more weight than if a non-authority said it.
If anyone is interested in this kind of thing, there’s a subsection of sociology about similar cognitive short cuts called cognitive sociology: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_sociology
So ...every society has "authority figures". And the modern West is no exception. What the poster was complaining about was that for the last four centuries the West has shifted from using the Church as the authority figure to scientists as the authority figure. But he failed to explain why he considers that to be bad.
Is he saying that we should chuck Galileo and Copernicus and go back the Geocentric Universe, and chuck Darwin, and go back to a 6000 year old earth? Or what?
I know people who want to do that with Darwin.
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We are chained by the lies of democracy, egalitarianism, materialism, nihilism, and godlessness.
With the exception of nihilism and materialism, what's wrong with the values and ideals on that list? And what constitutes godlessness?
The concept of Democracy is stupid...
It will be more stupidlyness if they let 16 year olds vote...
However:
― Winston S. Churchill https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/267224 ... pt-for-all
