23 Apr 2019, 2:14 pm
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23 Apr 2019, 2:21 pm
Habibi wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Habibi wrote:
i dont hate the left, i am just baffled how quiet they are about this subject. if the left cares so much about humanity and stuff then why do they ignore the opression of non-white christians? the left stands up for everybody but not christians.
the left is people who consider themself socialists, feminists, communists, gay people etc. people who vote for hillary clinton, macon etc.
can you show me where the left stands up for opressed christians and where the left give critic to any other religion than christianity?
What you are engaging in is called Virtue Signalling: The public expression of an opinion on a given topic primarily for the purpose of displaying one’s alleged moral superiority over those the opinion is being expressed against.the left is people who consider themself socialists, feminists, communists, gay people etc. people who vote for hillary clinton, macon etc.
can you show me where the left stands up for opressed christians and where the left give critic to any other religion than christianity?
In essence, you seem to be signalling your "superior" virtue against the "Evil Left" by acting in the same way a Social Justice Warrior would against the "Evil Right".
So what do the lives of a couple-hundred innocent people mean when you can use their deaths to imply your own superiority over an entirely different group of people that you don't like (i.e., "... socialists, feminists, communists, gay people, etc. people who vote for hillary clinton, macon etc.")?
you are paranoid, i dont think this.
i do care about the christians? then why do i bring up christianityphobia...
if the left cares about opression, then why do the left ignore how hard christians have it in middle east, some parts of asia, africa etc?
its a fact that the left cares about jews, muslims etc, but not christians....you dont have any problem with that, you feel offended that i point this out...
In the west where most of these leftists you are talking about live christians are not being oppressed and things aren't bad for them. I mean if anything in the U.S some fundie christians are trying to promote religious legislation against things like abortion and birth control in some states. Muslims face more discrimination than christians in the U.S....
So perhaps not everyone on the left is familiar with how christians are faring everywhere in the world. I have heard of oppression and discrimination towards christians in some places and I do have a problem with it, but there is not much I can do to influence politics or solve conflicts in the middle east, asia or africa.
Still though does seem kind of like you care more about blanket generalizing all the liberals and people on the left as people who hate and want to oppress christians, than you care about the christian victims of the Sri Lanka attack. If a few a**holes on facebook cracked jokes and laughed about it that was sh*tty of them but kind of unfair to blame everyone who isn't a right winger. I mean should I accuse all right wingers of being nazis and nazi sympathizers, just because some of them are?
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23 Apr 2019, 2:35 pm
Habibi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Habibi wrote:
its true, far right wingers will use this type of attacks to spread islamophobia which sucks. but the left uses attacks on muslims etc to spread christianityphobia, its a never ending wheel of hate that the left and right is doing, i am so tired of it.
Except when they happen in the west, most attacks on Muslims aren't by Christians. But what do I know, I'm just a leftist.
most far right wingers are christians.
Really? Most far-right leaning folks in the west belong to the main religion practiced in the west? I never would have guessed that.
You missed my point entirely - it's that most attacks on Muslims aren't by Christians because most of them don't occur within the west, so using violence against Muslims to advance some sort of anti-Christian agenda wouldn't work. Of course, if you're just looking to trot out a false comparison to pretend that uneven things are actually even, be my guest but expect to be called out on it again and again until you stop using dishonest nonsense to attempt to make a point. If your point has a foundation of BS, it will eventually collapse due to the poor foundation.
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23 Apr 2019, 2:40 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
Habibi wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Habibi wrote:
i dont hate the left, i am just baffled how quiet they are about this subject. if the left cares so much about humanity and stuff then why do they ignore the opression of non-white christians? the left stands up for everybody but not christians.
the left is people who consider themself socialists, feminists, communists, gay people etc. people who vote for hillary clinton, macon etc.
can you show me where the left stands up for opressed christians and where the left give critic to any other religion than christianity?
What you are engaging in is called Virtue Signalling: The public expression of an opinion on a given topic primarily for the purpose of displaying one’s alleged moral superiority over those the opinion is being expressed against.the left is people who consider themself socialists, feminists, communists, gay people etc. people who vote for hillary clinton, macon etc.
can you show me where the left stands up for opressed christians and where the left give critic to any other religion than christianity?
In essence, you seem to be signalling your "superior" virtue against the "Evil Left" by acting in the same way a Social Justice Warrior would against the "Evil Right".
So what do the lives of a couple-hundred innocent people mean when you can use their deaths to imply your own superiority over an entirely different group of people that you don't like (i.e., "... socialists, feminists, communists, gay people, etc. people who vote for hillary clinton, macon etc.")?
you are paranoid, i dont think this.
i do care about the christians? then why do i bring up christianityphobia...
if the left cares about opression, then why do the left ignore how hard christians have it in middle east, some parts of asia, africa etc?
its a fact that the left cares about jews, muslims etc, but not christians....you dont have any problem with that, you feel offended that i point this out...
In the west where most of these leftists you are talking about live christians are not being oppressed and things aren't bad for them. I mean if anything in the U.S some fundie christians are trying to promote religious legislation against things like abortion and birth control in some states. Muslims face more discrimination than christians in the U.S....
So perhaps not everyone on the left is familiar with how christians are faring everywhere in the world. I have heard of oppression and discrimination towards christians in some places and I do have a problem with it, but there is not much I can do to influence politics or solve conflicts in the middle east, asia or africa.
Still though does seem kind of like you care more about blanket generalizing all the liberals and people on the left as people who hate and want to oppress christians, than you care about the christian victims of the Sri Lanka attack. If a few a**holes on facebook cracked jokes and laughed about it that was sh*tty of them but kind of unfair to blame everyone who isn't a right winger. I mean should I accuse all right wingers of being nazis and nazi sympathizers, just because some of them are?
According to the right, you, I and everybody else left of the Taliban in the west is anti-Christian because we're more concerned about Christians in our own backyard actively working to deny rights or take rights away from people than about Christians halfway around the world we don't know or have any connection to being oppressed by their neighbours. It's almost like we focus on the issues more likely to direct us personally instead of just putting on 'Team Western Christianity' jerseys and cheering for the deaths of whoever the right have declared 'enemies of the faith'. Possibly because us non-believers are among the 'enemies of the faith' the American Taliban have issued their fatwas against.
23 Apr 2019, 2:52 pm
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23 Apr 2019, 3:12 pm
Fnord wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
What an appalling thread.
Yes, it is. Politicizing tragedy to advance one's own interests is a dreadful practice.Yeah... my biggest problem I think is my damn bipolar disorder. I really hate using it as an excuse for my problems but I have been described as "rational and coherent on occassion" by people because when I'm feeling manic I get paranoid and easily angered over anybody who disagrees with me, and when I calm down and realize they were actually right I feel even worse about myself.
So I apologize.
23 Apr 2019, 3:24 pm
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
... I apologize.
No need. No worries.We HAVE gone off-topic, however...
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