Question for the race supremacists...

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It still happens....but not to the same degree that it happened in the old days.

I live in an area where white European-descended people are in the minority. No white person living here has “fled.”

You can leave a $10 bill in the street at 7 AM, and (provided there’s little wind) find it in the same spot at 11 PM. I know....because this actually occurred.

Yes I'm sure society is progressing toward the discarding of race as a marker. It's just taking a long time.

If I was to pick any group of people I've encountered who are distinguished by superior intellectual ability, it would have to be people from West Africa. If I had to pick a group.

One of the most intelligent people I ever met was a Ugandan political science postgrad. He was very curious and loved to jump from science to social studies across disciplines in a manner that was "outside of the box"

I haven't noticed such topics except one that was made months ago about people in the southern hemisphere supposedly being "inferior" (which was a load of s**t).

I don't believe in race supremacy. Like it or not we are ALL human!

There probably are some average genetic differences in racial groups, but the average differences are far less important than individual variation and upbringing.

Taking the relatively inoffensive (and easily measurable) trait of height:

The average Chinese man (race East Asian, location China): 5' 5"

The average Chinese-American man (race East Asian, location U.S.): 5' 7"

The average White-American man (race White, location U.S.): 5' 10"

On average Whites living in the U.S. are taller than Chinese living in the U.S. are taller than Chinese living in China. Traits are influenced by both genetics and upbringing. The reason Chinese-Americans tend to be taller than Chinese is superior nutrition at a young age. Now let's compare a specific White American man to a specific Chinese man by height:

Peter Dinklage (race White, location U.S.): 4' 4"

Yao Ming (race East Asian, location China): 7' 6"

However, individual variation among traits is much larger than average differences as evidenced by the Yao Ming and Peter Dinklage examples.

There probably are average differences in typically taboo traits like intelligence, that race supremacists could tout, but the average differences won't be very meaningful for the same reasons that average heights are not predictive for Peter Dinklage and Yao Ming. Going by averages we would have expected Peter Dinklage to be 5 inches taller, instead Yao Ming is 3 feet taller.

Bottom line: Race supremacy is stupid, treat everyone as an individual and not as part of a racial group. Someone's external racial features tell you very little about them.

Last edited by Antrax on 02 Jun 2019, 10:15 am, edited 1 time in total.

That's why there's a major demand for western baby milk formula in CHina

If this means that Chinese women are resorting to formula rather than breast feeding, that's not a good thing. Height difference between East Asian and Western countries is probably due to dietary differences i.e. consumption of dairy products in general. You may have noticed that Chinese food has very little in the way of dairy ingredients. This explains the popularity of kosher Chinese restaurants. You don't have to do much to most Chinese recipes to make them kosher (so long as they are not pork, shrimp, etc.).

I don't think race determines much more than risk of skin cancer or vitamin D deficiency - but culture can mean a lot.

And sometimes your skin color determines your position in the society. That's sad but it happens. The black physicists I met came from Africa and Carribean but none from the US. Why? It's not the genes.
I suppose being black in the US carries some social load that being black in Africa does not.

I wish it changed to giving everyone fair opportunities.

This probably does not explain your experience. The US is a very comfortable place to live for those of us with enough income (typically a physicist would fall in that category although exactly how much they earn depends on whom they work for). And has provided this level of comfort to the more fortunate among us for many decades. It is relatively unusual for a physicist or other person with a similar career path to engage in much foreign travel. Possibly academicians, but then most of them are probably immigrants (other Americans can confirm this). A good physicist who is also a US citizen probably has a job that pays much better than academia. A large number probably work for the US government as employees or contractors, which requires them to have a top-secret clearance that a foreign national can't get.

All sub-Saharan African countries are basically poor to varying degrees. Sorry, I have to say that — blame colonialism. A physicist having been born in Africa more or less has no choice but to travel to more affluent countries where they can be well compensated for their talents. You may not think Poland is a wealthy country, but purchasing power parity per capita is still about 5x that of Ghana.

To recapitulate my earlier point, international travel is something Americans tend to be rather bad at except for pure recreational purposes, and even then we tend to be timid about where we go. I suggest you visit any place where an international endeavor of some sort is taking place, for example a Greenpeace ship. You usually won't find many Americans.

Of course I meant academicians, my experience comes from science conferences.

Why are academicians in the US immigrants? Or Jews - that's what I've observed.

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I banned the racist.

I would probably have locked this thread rather than moved it because I would rather not give racists the opportunity to say racist things (for one thing, I don't want to have to ban them).

The current conversation is very good and constructive. Please keep it that way.

If you think one race is superior to another then please keep that to yourself.

Thomas Sowell has done a lot of research on these discrepancies, and concluded that "different groups tend to do different things."

In an interview with William F. Buckley at the 18:26 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y021WAdUlW8

The average white person in the US is 5 foot 9.3 inches.

There are many people of East Asian descent in NYC who are taller than 5 foot 7.....including women. Source: the subways. There are East Asians who are over 6 feet. I work with one.

I am of Northern European descent, and am just under 5 foot 5.

I'm Caucasian/Pacific Islander mixed and I'm 5'8". My brothers and sister who are all Caucasian and Jewish (they have a different father) all look like basketball players compared to me.

Exactly my point. Knowing the average height of a person's race tells you nothing about how tall that particular person is.