fionaban wrote:
i haven't lived in a bubble. i have had hard times but i turst in the Lord 2 get me though them. i have seen awefull things happen but i belive that the Lord is going 2 help these ppl though them.
God Bless
Fiona
well maybe the lord can help, who knows, the thing is though, why are these bad things happening in the first place?
PhoenixKitten wrote:
A wise person once said that you should pray as though everything depends on the answer to your prayer and act as though everything depends solely on the outcome of your actions. In other words, do the best you can, then trust God to do the rest.
I haven't lived in a bubble either: far from it, and it sorely tested my faith in God before it strengthened it. I wouldn't be half as close now if it weren't for all the hard stuff. Just remember: if the sun didn't set and darkness fall we wouldn't know that the stars existed.
my point is that sometimes, quite often actually, the sun sets too much. i know the stars exist, and i've grown from my pain, and gotten stronger from it, but there comes a point when the pain no longer makes you grow or appreciate the good times, but only destroys you. now why does this perfect being let that happen? tell me god is an impotent dork and i'll say, ok, maybe god exists after all, and maybe he meant well... but a perfect god wouldn't have made the world into what it is.
jackd wrote:
SquanderedPotential - what is your conception of god?
I ask because you speak of god in a traditional sense, but I don't think those are your beliefs - you sound atheist or agnostic to me. Were you raised "christian" and have since rejected it? Are you just addressing it based on the beliefs of others, or do you really think of god as an invisible person in the sky that pushes everything around to make it move and he's just an a**hole? That we're merely puppets on strings and he causes good and bad things to happen? I feel that's not what you think, and yet you seem to blame god for the evil in the world. The most evil I've seen done has been done by humans, not by "nature" (as if we're somehow apart from the rest of the world), and even with nature I doubt you believe there is an invisible "person-god" cracking the earth open during earthquakes.
Just as you say, it's silly to "leave it in the hands of some invisible gentle giant", but you have no problem blaming things on this same invisible gentle giant? I don't understand. I also feel the pain of the world, the devastation and sorrow constantly occurring, even if it's not happening to me, but why "blame god"? Do you do it so you don't have to blame yourself for not doing something about it?
i don't blame god, and you're right, i'm more agnostic/nihilist than anything. i'm just sick of people praising something that - if it existed - would be a total idiot screw up or an a**hole.
and btw, the evil humans do would be god's fault because god made us the way we are. and don't even get me started on that whole free will baloney.
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