Who wants to move to CHAZ?

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But living in chaz is free, they seized all the homes there as government property of chaz. So you just walk in sleep wherever you want, they hand out free food and water too.

Gun rights groups are already called terrorist now when they peacefully assemble. So they’d be definitely call terrorist rebellion if they did this. But if the time comes for a true revolution every gun owner is aware they be called terrorist. The founding fathers were terrorist too according to the British.
I don’t dig hypocrites and that’s what the left media and democrat government in Seattle and Washington are.

And to xfiles. Your post would seem to legitimize the confederacy. See the left says the confederate states and any groups or state has no right to secede from the USA. But now when a leftist group does it they supoort secession. Which clearly runs a mock of their secession is illegal and can’t be allowed argument.

Gun owners wouldn’t want to secede by the way , they’d want a revolution to topple the corrupt government, replace it and restore the constitution.
Chaz wants to be it’s own Separate nation with its own government.
So chaz is the same as the CSA. it’s stopped being a protest, it’s not a revolution.
I’d be fine if they were just like this is a police free zone . But now they like this isn’t part of the USA anymore and appointed w government and enforcers to rule it.

Since they seceded and it’s approved by the state of Washington, can the government arrest people of a foreign nation in their nation?

One of their demands is for the whole city to join chaz

Give them thst and next they demand their who state join chaz

If something major happened in CHAZ....trust me, the Seattle authorities would intervene. They would be stupid not to.

The democrat leaders ordered them to leave and stand down. Because they democrats can’t be seen attacking left leaning criminals. It’s is simple as that.
If all gangs in the us claimed to be protesters and for blm all police actions against gangs in democrat cities would stop.
It’s also why you don’t see any of thise happening in republican cities,cause they know the Republican leaders will crack down on it.

It’s all about Pr especially during an election year where democrats can’t afford to lose any votes. I’m glad my city is Republican and as such the protests have stayed outside our border and kept to the democrat city connected to us.

How would people feel if all the people who live and work there bought guns and took it back?

They’ve already stated they won’t unless someone calls. This includes rape.
The police can’t see inside and the people inside are keeping control of messages going out.
Some reports of extortion happening but again police are ordered to stand down and let the people inside do whatever they want


Thought they were trying to get stuff like this to stop?

Watch what happens when there’s a murder.....or if somebody reports a major crime to the authorities.

I’m sure some residents of CHAZ are tired of all the constant noise day and night there. I would be,

They didn’t have a choice in joining chaz in first place. It was forced on them by outsiders.

Look, you did not actually answer my question of what you think defund the police means, only that you implicitly think it means stop giving any money to police at all so they will fall apart. Not everyone is understanding the word "defund" the same way.

This goes directly against how people have been saying for a very long time that education is getting defunded, not that it not receive no money but that it has been receiving less to the point it has been made less effective. You will probably get some that are so angry over how police are that they are full on sick of the institute at all, perhaps want something fresh without the baggage. But the majority want it defunded to the point that they are not going around with dangerous weapons like hammers just looking for nails that they harass and kill. From what I have seen the American police have refused to change themselves to not be more sensitive to the needs of the people, so either scale them back so through defunding so that they are not just harassing people, or divert funds not only to places like social programs that would do more than scary people with itchy fingers and guns but to something else that can do better for non violent calls that police are put on. A random police officer should not be making checks on people that suffer from mental illness and could be helped more by people who can talk them through things rather than hit them with a taser.

All of those things are actually really reasonable rather than thinking that people calling for defund the police are literally saying there should be no law enforcement. Perhaps should be worded a better way, it has been a rather quick call and clearly not something focus tested in how it sounds, but it is the emotions of those affected by police brutality and thus should hold consideration for change. Do have any idea what percentage of an area's budget goes to the police and how it is one of the only government programs that receives consistent funding increases to match inflation?

I am going to assume that you are using a straw man to say that a consistent demand of people protesting is that want their own city. Either you are doing it to yourself or you are buying into biased media that is telling you that protestors want to make their own chaz utopia. Stop being a big baby in assuming protestors are selfish people aiming to conquer their own land and call for your politicians to listen to protestors and actually do something.

Not to do anything while they are sick of injustice is only going to make them have to make things as uncomfortable as possible that they are listened to. Put yourself in their shoes for once and think outside of your bubble that everything has always been great. That is called empathy.

Sorry, I didn't mean to not say that I read what you meant. I did read what you meant when it comes to defunding. However, these protesters demands seem to go beyond what your definition of defunding is. Some of the demands have called for all African-American convicts who have been given a prison sentence, to be released from prisons around the nation for example. Was this part of what you mean, when you meant in terms of defunding?

I think that you watched a bias news source that went out to find the craziest protestor possible.

What I have seen are calls for retroactive freedom from laws like non-violent drug convictions like weed, phony charges like resisting arrest when someone does not want their head thrown into the pavement, and a strong look at cases where police may have planted evidence on people (especially black) that have them sentenced, which happens shockingly often and only has anything happen when one gets sloppy enough to get caught doing so. Clearly a broad repeal of all sentences based on the race of the person is ridiculous, but an effort should be done to clean things up.

If the person who seemed to be proposing it was smart, they might also do so because of regardless of how common sense and reasonable something is, conservatives will always make them compromise with a stance of do nothing or make things worse, that it often makes no meaningful change. This is why Obama barely actually accomplished anything because he gave into concessions on everything. While Trump has no intention on conceding to anything that he can't even stop these protests without threatening to send in the army and teargas peaceful protesters and priests to get a photo op in front of a church to virtue signal how great of a person he is.

Oh okay, perhaps I watched a bad news source on it then. However, how does defunding the police increase make a difference when it comes to weed charges, or investigating when people may have been framed in crimes? I don't understand how defunding them will change those problems.

That’s assumes they’re all from Seattle it since many are staying in hotels during day or night whatever their shift would seem to point they aren’t,
Also the city isn’t theirs anymore then when I live is my city and I can therefore dictate on everyone else how it’s run.

Standard leftist argument strategy, anyone who disagrees with me is strawmaning or racist.

They stop being protesters when they seceded from the nation after forcibly taking land.

Rest aired if this happen in the city I live I. I’d be calling on our leaders to out end to it and restore order.
Do you even care about the people who live there being terrorized?

I bet you’re one to call police when your neighbors play music really loud after 10 pm? Imagine it being 24/7 and there’s no help to come.

Maybe you’re the one buying into biased media?

I don’t have empathy for criminals who hurt others and break laws.
I write my congressmen and sign petitions that if passed would bring real change within hurting others. My personal freedoms are under attack constantly in my state but we don’t take control over sections of cities and demand we be allowed to secede from the USA because of it. We peacefully protest then go home and we pass out ball out petitions and mail our politicians.
Those thousand people holding that area hostage would be better off standing at corners all over the city getting petitions signed.

What change is their all night partying getting?
Has Seattle banned no nick warrants like thst city in Kentucky? Have they got choke holds banned? No nothing.

Would you be as ok if it was proud boys holding section of Seattle saying they secede and want the whole city under their control? Would they still be protesting?
I already know your answer. Your biased cause these are leftist but I bet you wouldn’t accept this from any non left leaning groups.