Can one hate racists and still support donald trump?

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Terms like "racist, fascist, ect" get thrown around so cheaply they've lost all their meaning. Every time I hear someone throw out "Racist!!" my eyes glaze over because I know there is no intellectual discussion to be had only emotional squawking.

I find that's the typical vapid response racists give when they're criticized for their objectively racist opinions.

The problem is that there are many more subjective claims of racism which are widely spread and which diminsih the objective use of the term.

Whilst potentially well meaning, those making these subjective claims believe that they are the ultimate arbiter of truth and claim that they are being objective, whilst ignoring all evidence presented which does not support their belief and so would prove their claims were instead highly subjective.

So, if one's culture tends to only celebrate the historic accomplishments of people with a certain appearance, would that be subjective to call that racism or objective?

Part of the problem is racist attitudes are woven into the very fabric of our society and that this often leads to some people's feelings being valued over other people's rights.

We’ve actually been celebrating the accomplishments of “minorities” for a long time. Maybe not quite enough....but it hasn’t been all a whitewash.

We are certainly not perfect.....and we certainly have racists besmirching our nation....but to say that racism is interwoven into to American culture is not true for many.

Lots of people are willing to deny others experiences (directed towards the underlined), but I'm not even just talking about the US. Do you think I believe Canada is substantially better? Canada is marginally better, but we're also a nation recovering from that legacy. America is also recovering but Donald Trump is a reaction against that recovery because many people believe that's a proud legacy worth preserving. You're probably better on this issue than many Americans but don't mistake your attitudes for society's attitudes.

To be fair, working in a factory exposes me to more uneducated bitter needledicks than some other jobs might, maybe that's warping my perception but my perception was never based solely on the people whom I interact with in person.

The problem is that "minorities", as the term implies, make up a small portion of the population. This in turn makes it harder to celebrate the accomplishments, as in a large number of areas, this "minority" may not exist, making it difficult to "celebrate", or the celecration irrelevent to the population in that area. In other areas, however, the "minority" may approach a "majority", making the "celebrations" more relevent, and so larger.

The "trick" to make these more widespread involves the "minority" group spreading out from those large groups into these "new areas", bringing their culture to those who have not experienced them, and helping bring about a better mutual understanding of each other's cultures, etc.



The problem comes from human nature to be wary of the "different", and to stick to their own group (family\community\tribe\...). In some cases this can cause a hostility to those of other races (objective racism), whereas in others this manifests as a dislike of those who are not of that specific community, but those who may be of a different race to the community in question may assume that the dislike is due to their race, rather than simply because they are "outsiders" to the existing community and that the same reaction would occur regardless of race (subjective "racism").

And then you also get those who carry a grievance for real or imagined reasons, and so automatically assume any action between members of 2 different races where the person of their preferred race "suffers" is an example of racism, even in cases where the individual participants races were not factors in the exchange. In those cases, the racism lies within the observer, who seeks to inject racist intent where it was not present, to satisfy their own wish to justify their grievance.

It is possible. I hate racists and love Donald Trump.

How can anybody like that driveling idiot?

It’s not necessarily that he wants to be a dictator.....it’s that he has no loyalty to anybody.

Why?

you're not even an American. Why do you have any opinion on him at all?

And since you have an opinion- why is it so strongly positive?

I've visited countries all over the world and in my experience the USA is the least racist place on the planet. We just obsess and navel gaze about it so so much that we believe that we are living in the most racist, xenophobic nation in the world. As Qui-gon Jinn said; "Your focus determines your reality.".

I voted the first " No ". Bit of a slanted poll !

He recently promoted a video on twitter of a man shouting 'white power'

no more questions need asking imo

^ who are you referring to?

Subjectively racist.

He's talking about Trump.

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