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04 Sep 2020, 2:11 am

Romofan wrote:

Typical, brilliant post from zacb

Thanks

. I actually protested when the whole Eric Garner thing was going on. There was definitely a different vibe. Same with the Tea Party in 09 and 10 and now. It is funny how is used to be about the banksters, now it is about race. How very divide and conquer.

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04 Sep 2020, 2:11 am

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east is east, west is west, and never the twain shall meet. authoritarians of the right and everybody else who just wants to be left alone and for the right-wing authoritarian harassment to stop, will never get along. i am so sick of this country and of the armies of clueless hypocritical marie antoinettes who only know how to say "obey the(ir) police" and "love it or leave it!"

Man, I wish I could have expressed my feelings that eloquently. Right on!

I don't wish for anyone to come to any harm, but I feel that if some folks would have to go through a wrongful arrest or have a policeman assault them verbally or otherwise, some metaphorical lightbulb would suddenly switch to "Okay, I get it now." Before any of that had happened to me, I had no doubt believing that some policeman were just overzealous, and borderline lawless. For one, my mother's brother was a street officer for many years after being an MP in the Air Force... he fondly remembered several unethical to just plain horrifying stories such as almost killing a suspect [as he said it, "some n*****"] who ran from him on foot by running down the guy and almost beating him to death [I never even asked why he wanted to detain the suspect], and smoking a joint while in uniform, on the clock, during a Rolling Stones concert at the Louisiana Superdome many years ago [I won't fault him for that an iota as much, but part of me still can't imagine that guy stoned, and I've seen him drunk at least a few times... plus it was recently after that Who concert where several people were killed in a stampede after the concert, not to mention the Hells Angels killing at Altamont].

When we have video evidence of the police assault, though.... SERIOUSLY!? Exactly how is a death sentence by police ever warranted when the suspect is totally incapacitated??

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04 Sep 2020, 2:21 am

if only they would just come clean and ADMIT to god and everybody, that they really ARE in fact racists, and classists, and that they feel they are our rightful divinely appointed lords. the janus-faced lying is the worst thing.

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04 Sep 2020, 2:22 am

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This blue line mentality is pretty psychotic if you ask me.

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04 Sep 2020, 2:29 am

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auntblabby wrote:

This blue line mentality is pretty psychotic if you ask me.

dissocially psychopathic, "us versus them" or in-group and out-group, "this town ain't big enough for the two of us" kinda zero-sum atavistic thinking.

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04 Sep 2020, 4:32 am

A paper can spin stories on black gang violence which make women clutch their handbags in public spaces or make white families sell their house when a black family move next door. Conversely the same paper will highlight police brutality and the George Floyd death, or BLM riots or white vigilantes going wild.

The accusation that the media is stirring the pot is an oversimplification. The media has one agenda to which is to sell papers and get online subscribers.

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04 Sep 2020, 6:15 am

The last few months?

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04 Sep 2020, 7:57 am

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In a democracy, innocent until proven guilty should always apply. I'm afraid our own police service also has "bad apples" who abuse their power and the murder of suspects in minor crimes has happened here too, but it is never justifiable. The way some defenceless individuals who broke lockdown laws were treated, was reminiscent of the heavy handed tactics and atrocities of the apartheid era.

^That "training technique" is just wrong... a police guide book and a medical procedure guide book are unlikely to look the same.

Mr. Floyd was a big man and pumped full of fentanyl.

How should they arrest him when he's resisting arrest?

Are lethal methods that endanger people's lives acceptable to you?

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04 Sep 2020, 8:26 am

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... The accusation that the media is stirring the pot is an oversimplification. The media has one agenda to which is to sell papers and get online subscribers.

The phrase, "If it bleeds, it leads" seems to have been coined in 1982. Thoughtful reporting is buried because sensational stories are what attracts viewers and readers -- they simply must dominate the headlines -- only later in the broadcast (or further from the front page) will you find the comforting and more upbeat news.

And because this method attracts readers/viewers, it also attracts sponsors who will pay top dollar for ad space in the popular media.

It's all about the money -- See Wag the Dog. a 1997 movie about a spin doctor and a Hollywood producer who fabricate a war in Albania to distract voters from a presidential sex scandal.

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Seem familiar?

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04 Sep 2020, 12:14 pm

envirozentinel wrote:

TheRobotLives wrote:

envirozentinel wrote:

Mr. Floyd was a big man and pumped full of fentanyl.

How should they arrest him when he's resisting arrest?

Are lethal methods that endanger people's lives acceptable to you?

All forms of arrest are potentially lethal.

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04 Sep 2020, 12:15 pm

not the kind martha stewart had to deal with. :roll:

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04 Sep 2020, 12:17 pm

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not the kind martha stewart had to deal with. :roll:

She didn't take a lethal dose of fentanyl, act erratic, and resist arrest.

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04 Sep 2020, 12:20 pm

but if she did those thing she still would have been treated with kid gloves. one justice for the rich, another for everybody else, naive to believe anything else.

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04 Sep 2020, 12:26 pm

Anyone might die at any time, that's not an excuse for the police to kill them according to some manual. Their training failed them according to their own fraternal motto. You do not seem to understand police.

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04 Sep 2020, 12:27 pm

the poster understands them all too well.

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04 Sep 2020, 11:40 pm

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And because this method attracts readers/viewers, it also attracts sponsors who will pay top dollar for ad space in the popular media.

Yes of course. That's where the sales/readership count. The more readers the higher they can charge advertisers. Youtube and social media works on the same principle. Youtubers are literally like amateur media outlets.

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