[ POLL ] Which "Christian" religion ... ?
Voodoo is not Christian enough to be called "Christian". It's Pagan. Not an option. Not to put down Voodoo. It just isnt a Christian sect.
Arent "Anglican" and "Episcopalian" the same thing?
In England its called "Anglican", or "the Church of England".
Just having "an official religion" isnt a big deal. England has the Church of England as its official religion, but you have the freedom to be Catholic, or Muslim, or Wiccan, or Atheist, and many are. The COE is just a kind of religious "default setting" for the country- endorsed by, by not enforced by the state.
But thats the modern UK. Four centuries ago in Elizabethan times they would break you on the rack in the name of the Church of England if they caught you with rosary beads and saying a Catholic prayer.Likewise you could be hacked with a sword for eating meat on Friday in Catholic countries like Spain in that same era. And thats kinda the way it is today in in the Islamic Republic of Iran( officially Shiite), and in Saudi Arabia (officially Sunni).
Dont see the need for an official religion in America but if they had a modern type of light handed "official religion" for the USA like they have in the UK then Episcopalian would be a good choice for us too. We are a Protestant country with roots in the UK. But Also it was one of the more conservative Protestant sects to form during the Reformation, and it retains a lot of similarity to Catholicism- so being Protestant-but-not-too Protestant would make a good brand X form of Christianity for a country.
Well, someone else didn't have disciples and didn't do miracles and so forth. Or are you saying they just made it all up after he was killed? Well, then what about all the other Jewish prisoners that were killed whom we no longer remember?
If the Bible was divine and true then but not now than the God that wrote it is not eternal,which then would be a contradiction being the Bible says God is eternal.So if the Bible is not valid today it wasn't valid 3,500 years ago then.
So the Bible can't be valid then if it's not valid today.
Not that I'm saying you should believe in the Bible but I'm saying if it's not true today it never was true.
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Well, someone else didn't have disciples and didn't do miracles and so forth. Or are you saying they just made it all up after he was killed? Well, then what about all the other Jewish prisoners that were killed whom we no longer remember?
I don't know the New Testament well and have no opinion as to it's divinity but I do like however New Testament literalists because they piss off liberal SJW hypocrites.Sort of give them a taste of there own medicine.
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Seriously, the Episcopal church was organized after the American Revolution, when it became separate from the Church of England, whose clergy are required to swear allegiance to the British monarch as Supreme Governor of the Church of England.
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Arent "Anglican" and "Episcopalian" the same thing?
In England its called "Anglican", or "the Church of England".
Just having "an official religion" isnt a big deal. England has the Church of England as its official religion, but you have the freedom to be Catholic, or Muslim, or Wiccan, or Atheist, and many are. The COE is just a kind of religious "default setting" for the country- endorsed by, by not enforced by the state.
But thats the modern UK. Four centuries ago in Elizabethan times they would break you on the rack in the name of the Church of England if they caught you with rosary beads and saying a Catholic prayer.Likewise you could be hacked with a sword for eating meat on Friday in Catholic countries like Spain in that same era. And thats kinda the way it is today in in the Islamic Republic of Iran( officially Shiite), and in Saudi Arabia (officially Sunni).
Dont see the need for an official religion in America but if they had a modern type of light handed "official religion" for the USA like they have in the UK then Episcopalian would be a good choice for us too. We are a Protestant country with roots in the UK. But Also it was one of the more conservative Protestant sects to form during the Reformation, and it retains a lot of similarity to Catholicism- so being Protestant-but-not-too Protestant would make a good brand X form of Christianity for a country.
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I could never take any Pope seriously because I have yet to see any Pope...handle a rattlesnake!
For that matter... I never saw the Archbishop of Cantebury, nor even Billy Graham ever touch a rattlesnake either!
So thats why I vote for "Pentacostal". Snake handling, talking in tongues, and having seizures in public needs to be our STATE religion... I say!
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If the Bible was divine and true then but not now than the God that wrote it is not eternal,which then would be a contradiction being the Bible says God is eternal.So if the Bible is not valid today it wasn't valid 3,500 years ago then.
So the Bible can't be valid then if it's not valid today.
Not that I'm saying you should believe in the Bible but I'm saying if it's not true today it never was true.
The way it was explained during my (Catholic) high school religion classes:
The Bible is a record of human experience of God. There was always human factor influenced by culture and world view of particular time, because the Bible was always written by people who experienced God to share this experience with people they were familiar with, within their cultural context. However, even today, studying the Bible can get us closer to God and help experience God.
You can accept it, discard it, or do whatever you want but that's what non-literal interpretations of the Bible I'm familiar with are based on.
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Voodoo and similar African/Christian syncretic religions have many Christian elements—partially because the observance of the African religion was stifled under the Colonial authorities.
At least some practitioners of the syncretic religions consider themselves devout Christians, and have a deep faith in Jesus Christ.
The Bible is many things:
A chronology
A songbook
An account of Jesus’ life
A work of allegorical literature
A polemic
An exposition of a creation myth.
Just off the top of my head.
A worthy work with many anachronistic things and many things with relevance today.
Each “book” can be said to represent a distinct literary and nonfiction genre.
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And as such, it is not a text-book on History, Maths, or Science. It is more like a collection of poems, journals, and essays on different ways people explained their experiences and observations in relation to the Divine. Except for Luke, none of the writers could be called a scientist (Luke was a physician).
Tradition holds that Solomon's Temple -- while financed by King Solomon and King David -- was actually built by laborers under the supervision of Freemasons, who would understand the arithmetic (algebra and trigonometry hadn't been invented yet) underlying architecture and construction. Was their knowledge included in the Bible? No. The writers of the Bible did not even include the fractional portion of Pi.
Solomon's mines, however, have yet to be located, even though places as far away as the Philippines lay claim to that honor.
To appease the masses, I would say that in order to fill in some gaps between unrelated historical events and give some meaning to their occurrences, a superstitious yet spiritual people (not unlike the conspiracy theorists of today) determined that G^D (who works in mysterious ways, right?) has a plan that ties it all together.
Accuracy? Citation? Cross-published in a peer-review journal? Why should they? When you are sole arbiter of the depth and breadth of The Law, no one shall dare question your authority, or else!
Smiles; Of Course There is so-called Literal Text Based
Religion That is 'External And Objectively Structured as Such';
Ugh, So Black And White; But No Matter How Folks Attempt
to Keep it Same; Folks Still Generate Different Meaning
And Purpose to Relate, No Matter What Words come; Yet,
To the Point that Folks Worship Different Structured Words
As Being God Like a 3 Letter Word 'God'; One Dude Dead; or a
5 Letter Word God, Allah, With a Last Prophet Receiving Holy Text too;
And then there is Mystical Religion; Poetry that Points to Ascending
Transcending Within to a Much Higher Level of Experience in Life;
Science Now Agrees with the Experience of Ascending And Transcending
to a Much More Creative, Focused, And Higher Level of Experience In Life;
Much More Creative than So-Called Normal States of Awareness to the Studied
Effect of Productivity in Creativity of 5-Fold More, Empirically Measured too;
Does it work;
Well, Yeah; as Transient
Hypo-Frontality Flow This
Nirvana of Focus in 'Autotelic' Bliss Will
Create 100,000 Words on Average, Each Month of Free Verse
Poetry in the Longest EPiC Long Form Poem in the History of Humankind
By Little Old me at 60 Years-Old Doing that Now For 84 Months at 8.4 Million
Words as Empirically Measured too; Yes, indeed, 13,688 Miles Now of Public
Dance in 84 Months too; Even Assessed as 'Legend', 'Folk Hero'; And 'He is
Everywhere', 'if You Haven't Seen Him, You Don't Get out Much'; True,
Empirically Documented in a Metro Viral Video in 1300 Community
Comments With 88,000 Views taken by one of Innumerable
Social Media Video Voyeurs All Across the Area; Over 2,000
Dance Events, i Created myself then (In case,
one wonders, How i got to be everywhere
at once; hehe, oh the Value of
Getting Around with
Modern Technology
on Facebook too)
From 'The Beginning'
On Thanks Giving
Day of 2010 Then;
Yeah; i Started Here on
this Little known Place
At 606 Months-Old on
the 'Wrong Planet; Online
As a Shut-in, in my Home with
A Synergy of 19 Life Threatening
Disorders then; i had no clue how to
Heal myself at first; Doctors offered no
Chance of Recovery for a Happy Life Either then;
i Looked Within and After 33 Months or So of Meditative
Growing Experience Writing, Accordingly More in Free Flow;
Words Attached to Emotions Again; Healing my Body From Head
to toe as Mind and Body Soul in Balance Once More; Coming out
of the Dark as the Budding Hero Archetype Story Goes until the
Point of at least by Dance, A Common experience walking down the
Road, Younger Generations rolling Down the Window of their Car Yelling
Out Legend
to me
with
thumbs
up; Folks
Just saying
they wish they
could be where i am
now; Just Free Without
Fear totally enjoying myself
in Heaven now; They Don't Call
It Heaven; but i WiLL Show You in
Over 2,000 Photos What A Smile
Looks Like When A Person Gets
Close to another Human Experiencing
this Eternal Flow of Bliss Now As Dance And Song Real...
We Will Always Call a Religion Whatever We want to;
Or Name another God or Two too; But Until
One Seeks and Finds Heaven within;
They haven't
Truly
Seen the Higher
Potential Within Free;
Science Proves this Higher
Awareness through Brain Scans is Real;
Sadly, Religion is Still Behind this Curve of
Truth and Light in Literal Ways; And even 'Atheist Hero'
Sam Harris Will Better Describe the Experience of
the Kingdom of
Heaven within...
Just A Place
of No Fear
and Bliss
of Increasing
Human Potential
iN Autotelic Flow;
i was rather pleased Yesterday;
as my Theory of Empirical Strength
Proved out True too; it's Not the Amount
of Weight As Science Shows now too that
makes Us As Strong as the Potential We do
Have as Strong as an Orangutan now; it is the
Reps of the Moves Carrying our Own Body Weight
now; Covid-19 Closed Down the Gym but it did not
close Down My "Naked Dance" Without Tools Other than much
more than the Shoes i Wear to Do it in Public Still Now in Stores;
i left The Gym Leg Pressing 1340 Pounds in March; i returned Masked
to the Military Gym, Saturday, as it opened back up to DOD Retirees
Like me again, Indeed, i did not Lose a Pound of Strength Still Now in
My Legs
of Amazing
Dance; Indeed,
Empirically Strong
as an Orangutan REAL
At Leg pressing, 1340
Pounds at 60 Years-Old
And 3 Months i still Am;
True; Already Have the Proof
of the Feat still at a 90 Degree
Angle on Youtube, 100 Seconds
Slow of 12 Reps of Slow Focused Laser Focus
in Flow;
But True too; i did have a Home Gym with
420 Pounds of Resistance, a bit more than my
own 246 Pounds of Human Weight Now i pressed
continually Easy for up to 15 Minutes like a 'Rowing Machine' too...
There is a bit more to 'this' than 'A Book', if a Person Truly Seeks and
Finds this Higher Force of Flow Within...
And to Be Clear, for the Fact Finders in the World; All the Horatio's and
Ripley's in the World;
i carry the
Evidence
That this
so-called
Experience of
God in Action
Is as Real as ALL THE EMPIRICAL RESULTS SHOW;
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS EXPERIENCE OF GOD NATURE as
related in many Holy and Sacred Texts is Irrefutable and real...
But Again;
it's Not
What Anyone
is going to Normally
Get from, High School,
College, Work, or Church;
Other than that; the Effective
EMPIRICAL Results are again IRREFUTABLE.
Other than THAT too; Most Folks Are not Willing
To actually Put in the Effort To Make This Heaven
Within Real Eternally ALWayS NoW; For What i See
at Church is the Expectation of A 'Welfare God' Providing
A Ticket to Heaven in a Dirt Nap if the 'Narcissistic God'
is Worshipped
With Fear
Enough
For the
Faux Carrot
And Sticks So Far, So Far
Away Somewhere in the Sky
or the Sea, Where Birds and
Fish Already Get Heaven More
Than Modern Clothed Humans in
'Church, Work, Or Other Organized Fish School Do
Clothed
IN CuLTuRaL
Clothes With
The Inheritance
of Flow Within Simply
Forgotten and No Longer Attained
in so much more God Nature Potential
Still Ever Doing Now
MORE
At 10 Years-Old in 1970,
The 'Jesus Christ Super Star'
Theater Depiction of Jesus as
Just A Dude, Awakened me More to
the Underlying Truth that Judas
Asked in that Movie than
All the Church
Attendance,
School,
And Work
i've Achieved
As a participant
in My Life; 'I really
Wanna know Why You
Did it that way'; it's
True the Answer is
We Must Look Within
To Find God Naked And True
As The Breath We Breathe More
With Human Potential Now; No one WHoLLY
Will Provide The Answer But 'The Naked Force' Within...
THeRE is More Than A Nation of Religion to Find; A
MuLTi-UNiVeRSE of God Nature to Seek and Find Within;
Seed of Stars FLoWeRS We Are Lamps We aRe to Shine Even More Now
As Children of The
Stars Indeed Star
FLoWeRS And
Seeds oF LiGHT
NoW We aRE True
The Best PartToF ALL
No Myth, This PoTenTiaL is Real...
Indeed, 'Good News'
And Science
Proven to
Be Real Now too...
No Need for Worship;
No Fear of Criticism;
For Faith That Breathes
This Love This Will of Life Free
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Some off topic random facts about Christianity just to pass the time until a relevant post comes along.
Most people associate Paul's Christian name as being related to his birth name Shaul/Saul because they rhyme but actually it's an unrelated coincidence.
Paulos was a Greek name meaning small or humble and was given to him by gentile Greek Christian followers because either he was humble in his service to Jesus.Or it could have because of Paul's frail or small stature,the Bible does say Paul was a handicapped person.
The Hebrew name Shaul or also Saul meant question or to ask and it is mere coincidence that it rhymes with Paulos or Paul.
What does Jesus Christ mean in English:Joshua the anointed
Greek Isus Christos,Christos meaning anointed in Greek.Which was a variant of the Hebrew,Mashiach also meaning anointed, Messiah is also a variant of Mashiach.
The Greek Isus was a Greek variant of the Aramaic colloquial Yeshua,which was a variant of the Hebrew Yehoshua or in English Joshua.
So Joshua,Yehoshua,Yeshua,Isus, Jesus all mean the same thing.
Mashiach, Messiah, Christos,Christ all mean anointed or anointed one.
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