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He lowered business tax, and as a result, a major Australian spent a billion dollars in building a company in America, rather than here. Morrison wouldn't have been happy with that.

The lower tax rates would have made a lot of Amerikans invest/relocate in the US, rather than China*, as a result, also.

What has that got to do with my statement that Trump is putting pressure on China*?
Interesting non-sequitur.

The biggest issue in America is the abomination of the health system, imo.
Your government should look at Canada and Australia to see how is should be done.

Regarding socialism:

I'm sure that was it.
I was literally watching the news about how Indonesia was trying to take over Timor, using rebels, but Australia intervened.

The "interesting" thing was, after Timor gain independence, the Howard government skrewed the Timorese of a large part of the oil rights. Charming.

If they did that, however, they may find that a lot of things that they like (public hospitals, for example) are actually state, not federal, responsibilities here (not sure how Canada manages their system), whereas they seem to see it as a federal issue over there (this may have a constitutional\legislative background, or simply be a misunderstanding of which level of government is constitutionaly\legislatively responsible, caused by seeing other countries systems and assuming they are federal systems there, so would automatically have to be the same in the U.S.A.):

Source: https://www.health.gov.au/about-us/the-australian-health-system

An additional benefit of pushing for state, rather than federal, implementation of public hospitals, ambulances, etc. is that it is something that can be organised and implemented in a much faster, more targetted way, as those who would be implementing this would have better knowledge of the areas where facilities were required. It could also be partially funded through charges (much like the current private system) for patients from outside the state, lowering the tax requirements on the individual state's residents, with agreements between states where it was implemented not to charge each other's residents for the service, which may encourage the states that hold out from implementing it to have their citizens demand it for their state as well.

Alternatively, there is likely nothing to prevent the states from setting their own "health-care"\"health insurance" system up, where the state covers some, or all, of the costs of given procedures for all residents of the state (within their state, and by agreement, in other states as well) through an increase in state taxes, rather than having to go to the expence of building their own facilities which will compete with the existing private facilities\services.

Certainly, an implementation of our federal PBS and MBS would be beneficial to them (and are federal areas of responsibility, at least over here.), but the laws and constitution there may not allow\need large changes to permit this, both as it would entail costs (and so taxes to cover) and may entail issues related to setting prices and the restrictions placed on businesses as a result.

With that said, things like having aged-care services regulated by the federal, rather than state, governments may have saved many thousands of lives in the U.S.A. during the current pandemic, had they replicated that portion of our system, given certain states were requiring those who had tested positive to be returned to the aged-care locations, allowing the disease to spread through the known vulnerable population there, rather than taking a responsible approach and keeping them isolated thereby protecting those other residents.

I will watch it a little later, but quite sure it will not sway me. And yeah our healthcare system is crap, that needs to be fixed.

It is 12 seconds long.

.Question is it pertinent to remain in the loop?

What does it,and keep you in the loop of suffering and questioning.

Without answer.

Well I was busy earlier, with them miniatures only a real man can paint lol. watched it now and also that's the oldest argument ever and I don't buy it. And it shouldn't be 'everyone elses money' its if you live in a society you should contribute to said society. So there should be a cap on wealth, so a person can only earn so much which leaves more for the rest of us because their over-flow would go to the state and than that could be used to help people. No one needs to be a multi-billionaire its not necessary and if anything it is harmful to have a single person ever controlling that much wealth. Like human beings are the worst, so can one be trusted with so much wealth?

Stalin, Putin, Jijinping, Kim Jong-un, Bloomberg, Clinton, Biden. All filthy rich.
Where is the egalitarianism there?
Hypocrisy Trumps wins.

What? none of those guys were/are socialists...f**k em all except Biden, he's ok a little centrist for sure but for sure influenceable, to be pushed further left.

And no Trump does not win no matter how hard his loyalists and bootlickers wave their trump flags in front of the grocery store. That is what I saw today and my boyfriend gave them a thumbs down while I gave them the rude american middle finger gesture.

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I believe you missed Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Dorsey as well (among many others in their field).

I think US, UK, Australia and New Zealand should become one nation; as meant to be. Hawaï which was totally culturally different yet joined the US, why the UK and OZ can’t?

The problem with capitalism is eventually you run out of other people's labour...

I always imagined it to be sort of tiring to have to keep up with US politics on top of your own country's politics. The US has its nose in everyone's business so if we screw up, it affects everyone. I'm always embarrassed knowing how much attention our politicians get around the world . I try to keep up with world politics to some extent, but I feel most of my countrymen don't give much mind to international politics unless it affects the US. And as we become more isolationist, I worry we'll only become more ignorant of the outside world as a whole.
Hopefully once Trump is kicked out things will start to improve. If Trump was benefitting anybody abroad, it was just a side-effect of his being cutthroat in pursuing America's interests before anyone else's, and his own interests before anyone else's. People like Putin and Xi will be saddened to not have such a pliable moron as Trump in charge anymore. Biden is still not much of an improvement, but, my god, it's something at least.

Even with Biden. I dont see the US as the go to example everyone has for democracy. It seems like a cruel, money driven, everyones the enemy type society. It wont be long before its self proclaimed rhetoric of being the best country in the world is not just questionable but easily dismissed and people will look to Europe, South Korea, Australia or New Zealand for examples of how governments should do things. Who knows, maybe it has already happened?