Portland is Clearing Out the Homeless Camps

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It sounds like substance abuse to me. People like that hide it well and can seem to function normally. In work we had two people like that and both were well liked. Within the space of a few months both hanged themselves years after they started working for the company and it later turned out drugs was a big issue with one and alcohol along with family dysfunction was what caused the other.

The latter man used to come into work drunk and lost his licence several times for crashing has car while smashed. Even though he stunk of alcohol he was extraordinarily able to do the most perfect welds and somehow drive the forklifts and cranes better than everyone else........somehow......and somehow the managers never cared because he was fast and rarely made mistakes (he was also loved his amphetamines)

The other man was just really into his hard drugs. He was never abusive or nasty to anyone but a little subdued. He kept himself to himself and was probably the best welder in the large company of many hundreds. Both of them waited until they were alone at home and then done the deed, one of them during his young sons birthday party. Even those two people managed to keep a job and their homes though. It makes me wonder just how bad people need to be before they finally do lose their homes.

The disparity is still there but not as big as it used to be when people worked some low-wage job in the West for a year or so, came back home and built a house with what they saved.

Another thing that might influence choice of cars is, we don't trust our own prosperity, so most people are unlikely to get bank loan to get a more expensive car if they are able to afford something economic for ready money. I think we fear debt more than the Westerners do.

But back to homelessness - the social workers I know are people who have experienced hitting the bottom themselves. That may make them more effective.

This could be me in a sense.

At the height of my addiction(heroin),i held down a job and i was very good at my job.
I kept to myself and did my own thing.
I also invested in property.

5years clean from heroin and now mortgage free and retired.: )

Those on the down trodden path,such as homelessness and drug addiction etc,

will seek help when there ready and have made there own minds up to bettering themselves.

No one can help them per se,other than offering some kindness along 'the way'.

No use pointing the finger at these types and passing judgement etc,

when after all,they are just victims of this system.

We come into this world innocent and unbrainwashed,
then become brainwashed by this system.

This system is the problem,do your finger pointing there and look at the enslavement systems in place for the sake of greed.

It's the cause of all illnesses,disease,mental disorders,drug addictions etc etc.

This system blocks the chakra system,

and in the health system,is a big money maker.

etc etc

5 years is good going. Nice job.

It could be pretty much anyone who can fall into that spiral too. The extent it reaches is the only unknown when it comes to people and drugs.

It will be actually 6yrs in March next year.

Thankyou.: )



Pretty much anyone is susceptible,yes.

and the 'unknown' is unresolved past emotions.

So it's a two way street,either you deal with it at some point or keep on suffering by self medicating with drugs or drugs by big pharma.

Not dealt with,health issues ensue.

The universe comes knocking at some point,such as a health scare and or mid life crisis.

Some change,some don't,they suffer needlessly.

Evolution-weeding the chaff from the wheat.

I've tried to help people like that and usually they can't be helped if they don't want any or the "help" they want usually ridiculous. I've known a fair few homeless people over the years and most of them have no hope. The most recent were some women who came out of a refuge for vulnerable domestic abuse victims. They were just not able to look after themselves under any circumstances.

The main woman waited years to be front of the queue for a council home and she moved in without incident. A few months later her friends from the refuge moved in with her. Before I knew it I was having to drive them around everywhere, they would go out miles and miles from the house and never planned on how to get back. 1am, ring ring, "can you pick us up from the town 10 miles away?" This crap kept going on and on and and eventually the trips got ridiculous and they started asking for money. One of them moved back in with her boyfriend who previusly abused her and she asked me if i could pick her up from the other side of the country and take her to my town. (Why the hell she got back with the guy that abused her i have no idea) Eventually they were kicked out of the house and all the women parted ways again. A month later I had a message from the main woman, she wanted me to drive about 150 miles to her new home, take her a few hundred meters to the nearest shop so she can pick up some food, drop her back off at her home and drive back 150 miles.

It was bonkers.

I believe it's the psychological issue of not understanding boundaries.
That's also why these women (and men sometimes) come back to their abusive partners - they don't have a concept of themselves as independent adults capable of deciding for themselves and taking responsibility for their own decisions but not for actions of others. Lack of boundaries also causes people to have unreasonable demands to others - there is no difference between what a person wishes and what others do, no understanding of such difference.

One can learn boundaries in adulthood - I did - but it requires hard work and motivation.
My friend was an absolvent of an addict rehab program. An important part of it was experience of achievements, growing your own vegetables, training for a marathon - learning motivation for long-term goals and experiencing satisfaction from achieving them. These experiences gave some addicts - including my friend - strength and motivation to climb out of addict livestyle.
But another important thing: you need to believe that "normal life" is worth it.

At the very least, they would be more likely to see through the lies and deceptions that many long-term homeless people use to exploit the system.

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler on Tuesday said he has authorized police to use "all lawful means" in ending an illegal occupation at a home in the city. "I am authorizing the Portland Police to use all lawful means to end the illegal occupation on North Mississippi Avenue and to hold those violating our community’s laws accountable," Wheeler wrote on Twitter Tuesday night. Police said between September and November "at least 81 calls for service were placed for issues related to this property," according to data captured by the Portland Police Bureau (PPB). "Calls for service included, but were not limited to, fights, disturbances, shots fired, burglary, thefts, vandalism, noise violations, trespassing, threats, including by armed individuals, and for illegally blocking traffic, sidewalks and access to homes," authorities said.

Earlier on Tuesday, police said they [demonstrators] blocked off streets and sidewalks surrounding the property, which led to clashes between law enforcement and protesters in the area. Demonstrators threw objects at officers and police vehicles, and at least two vehicles had their tires flattened, while others saw their windows smashed, authorities said. A crowd of people also used fencing and other materials to block North Mississippi Avenue, according to the PPB. One of the people at the property had a gun and was taken into custody, a police statement said. Officers also found more guns on the property. "It’s time for the encampment and occupation to end," Wheeler added. "There are many ways to protest and work toward needed reform. Illegally occupying private property, openly carrying weapons, threatening and intimidating people are not among them."

Wheeler shot back on Tuesday night, declaring that: "There will be no autonomous zone in Portland."

Source: Portland mayor authorizes ‘all lawful means’ to clear protesters from home

I discovered as an adult, just because you have a place to stay at or have your parents house to live at doesn't mean you are not a bum. You can still be a bum and still have a roof over your head. If you are not working and not contributing to anything, you are a bum. This doesn't apply to those with disabilities and mental issues who are unable to function and need support.

So that would mean one of my ex's wasn't a bum of his lazyness was from his undiagnosed mental illness. I think my parents are only calling him lazy and a moocher because they didn't like him and people who dislike someone will have double standards and apply negative terms to them but not to others who have the same condition as them or are disabled.

He was one of those anti government conspiracy nutters. Lot of people hate capitalisms and also feel many of us are a slave to our wages but they still work because they need money than being a bum and that was what he was doing.

And he also wanted me to drive him 67 miles to work and back and I said "no the f**k way am I giving up four hours of my day taking you to work and back" and he didn't even want to get a driving license and he didn't want to work a job unless it was something he wanted to do and unless the pay was very high. This was Montana where wages are low. Guess why he is my ex?

A group of Antifa activists recently set up an “autonomous zone” in a two-block radius around a house in north Portland that was lost to foreclosure after a two-year battle.

The situation in Portland was reminiscent of one in Seattle in June, where protesters established an autonomous zone called “CHOP” that was eventually dismantled, in part because of several shootings taking place in the area during the occupation, including at least two that resulted in deaths.

Democratic leaders in both Portland and Seattle have drawn criticism for allowing protesters to create such zones in the first place. On Tuesday, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler said he had authorized city police to use “all lawful means to end the illegal occupation.”

“And right now they are barricaded. They’ve got a stockpile of weapons. They’ve got armed guards. They’ve got a kitchen ready,” Rantz said, “so they’re there for the long haul as the Portland police department are trying to figure out what exactly they’re going to do.

Portland’s ‘Red House’ protesters ready ‘for the long haul,’ guest tells Tucker

all too slippery slidey easy to plop down into homelessness, an insuperable climb back up out of the hole of it for most. the only thing that got me out was uncle sam's army, and it was a bitter pill indeed. nowadays on the far end of that, if i had to get a property these days, i just couldn't do it, the californicated prices here are just impossibly steep. so i'd likely be livin' under a bridge again.

Please take note that this is a quote from a "radio host" being interviewed by Tucker Carlson for the entertainment of his loser fanboys. I would like to know how he knows about the alleged " stockpile of weapons".

Portland Police Chief Lovell said in a video message Wednesday that police were aware of a stockpile of weapons in the zone.  He also warned that the police will enforce the law and use force if necessary to restore order to the neighborhood.  Officers have received multiple calls for incidents at the home including fights, gunshots, burglary, vandalism and noise complaints.  All of this over a house that should have been demolished years ago.

This is what the street looks like:

This is the house in dispute:

Real story of the red house is the son got into lot of trouble with the law, that cost the parents money so they took out a loan to pay for the boy's attorney and then they lot their house because of it because they couldn't pay it back.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... d-day.html

So family can't pay off their debt they borrowed to defend their son so bank takes house, city wants to buy the property to tear down. That is what they do here, buy properties and tear down the home on it and build either town homes or apartments/condos. That is how they keep our town from spreading out. Build in, not out. Squeeze in as many people.

Our house we bought was at threat of being town down but what stopped a developer from buying the property was due to trees and meeting up with codes for condos by having to put in side walks and he didn't want that so he walked away and we ended up buying it.