Is the GOP's extremist wing now too big to fail?

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If “almost everyone” thinks that Adam Smith and Margaret Thatcher were centre-right by modern standards then they are centre-right.

Is mocking allowed here now?
[Pepe rubs his paws together]

Sweetie, 'The Ministry of Truth' is said *ironically*.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministrie ... y_of_Truth



It may be 'implicit' to you, but fantasy is just that.

BTW, You do know how 'context' works, right?
Regardless, find *one* example, in this context, where I have said "both sides are equally bad", and we will take it from there.
Well, you can't and you have admitted that.
But now you are into 'mindreading'.
'Interesting'.

You do realise that suppositions are not facts, right?

What sort of a 'Seinfeld bizarro world' do you live in?
What part of 'Both sides have a$$holes' is the same as saying they are both equal in a$$holedness?

I actually did explain this in another thread, where the ultimate conclusion was that *both sides* are acting abominably.

I used this example:


BTW, Fnord is happy that the far left of politics has replaced a 'heart' with a 'fist'.
Do you agree with him?

See, this is part of the problem. With a broad brush, you've painted everyone as an "extremist" if they're critical of any facet of the current Biden administration.

So, everyone who voted for Trump is an "extremist." Even those of us who didn't vote for Trump and were critical of him (yours truly) are likewise extremists for being critical of Biden now.

In theory, a democratic system allows for competing political beliefs, but now we're seeing a scenario where anyone and everyone who doesn't tow the party line is automatically deemed an "extremist" regardless of their varying political beliefs.

And you're 25 years old and from the UK. Your earliest memory of a US presidential election is only 2012, and that was filtered through British media. What makes you the expert on American ideals and values and how Americans collectively feel about the current state of affairs?

You claim you acknowledge there are a***holes on both sides, yet you only obsess over one side.

The U.S. needs a China-style Cultural Revolution.

Here’s what it would entail:

1. Legalize all drugs nationwide. The War on Drugs was really the “War on Blacks”

2. Legalize public nudity nationwide. Laws against it violate separation of church and state (including Texas’ anti-dick pic law)

3. Close down all places of worship (frankly, as practiced, religion—Christianity and Islam in particular—is just an excuse people use to avoid sex, and not much else).

4. Strict anti-hate speech laws (includes laws against misgendering trans people or using the former names of sports teams, so if you say “Washington Redskins” or “Bruce Jenner”— off to jail you go.)

5. Denial of evolution, climate change or the Holocaust would result in criminal charges.

6. Fornication would be mandatory, especially for Christians and Muslims.

7. Total gun ban, which would be enforced much more strictly in the South.

8. Teaching creationism or abstinence-only education would be criminalized. (abstinence would already be criminalized, per rule #6)

9. Repeal all anti-alcohol laws (in other words, no more “dry” cities and counties). The Prohibition of the 1920s was rooted in racism.

10. GOP governors who backed Trump, such as Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis, would receive life in prison for complicitness in Trump’s crimes.

GOP governors who did not back Trump, such as Phil Scott and Larry Hogan, will not be affected.

What an odd thing to say.
You seem to miss the part where I agree there are a$$holes on the right side of politics.
'Interesting'.

But you think "fascism" is an overused term, dontcha?

The term 'fascism' has very poor connotations.
The strategy, particularly by the left, is to influence people's emotional state of mind.
This reduces rational thinking.

This is psychological-manipulation and is unethical, no matter which side of the political divide is involved.

Since the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies have pushed false and misleading accounts to downplay the event that left five dead and scores of others wounded. His supporters appear to have listened.

Three months after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol to try to overturn his November election loss, about half of Republicans believe the siege was largely a non-violent protest or was the handiwork of left-wing activists “trying to make Trump look bad,” a new Reuters/Ipsos poll has found.

Six in 10 Republicans also believe the false claim put out by Trump that November’s presidential election “was stolen” from him due to widespread voter fraud, and the same proportion of Republicans think he should run again in 2024, the March 30-31 poll showed.

In a recent interview with Fox News, Trump said the rioters posed “zero threat.” Other prominent Republicans, such as Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, have publicly doubted whether Trump supporters were behind the riot.

Last month, 12 Republicans in the House of Representatives voted against a resolution honoring Capitol Police officers who defended the grounds during the rampage, with one lawmaker saying that he objected using the word “insurrection” to describe the incident.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll shows a large number of rank-and-file Republicans have embraced the myth. While 59% of all Americans say Trump bears some responsibility for the attack, only three in 10 Republicans agree. Eight in 10 Democrats and six in 10 independents reject the false claims that the Capitol siege was “mostly peaceful” or it was staged by left-wing protestors.

The disinformation campaign aimed at downplaying the insurrection and Trump’s role in it reflects a growing consensus within the Republican Party that its fortunes remain tethered to Trump and his devoted base, political observers say.

According to the new Reuters/Ipsos poll, Trump remains the most popular figure within the party, with eight in 10 Republicans continuing to hold a favorable impression of him.

“Congressional Republicans have assessed they need to max out the Trump vote to win,” said Tim Miller, a former spokesman for Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush. “That that is the path back to the majority.”

In the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll, only about three in 10 independents said they have a favorable view of Trump, among the lowest level recorded since his presidency. Most Americans -- about 60% -- also believe Biden won the November election fair and square, and said Trump should not run again.

Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, one of Trump’s top Republican critics in Congress, has criticized the push to rewrite the history of the Capitol attack.

The disinformation effort is “such a dangerous, disgusting spin on reality,” Kinzinger wrote in a fundraising appeal to supporters last month, “and what’s even worse is that it goes unchallenged by so many in the Republican Party.”

The window for the Republican Party to distance itself from Trump seems to have passed, Miller said.

“There was a chance after January 6 for Republican leaders to really put their foot down and say, ‘We can’t be the insurrectionist party,’” he said. “Now that opportunity is totally gone.”

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 1,005 adults between March 30-31. The poll has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of about 4 percentage points.

We all lost in the last election. Well, except for the oligarchs. They are sitting pretty!

Of course they believe this nonsense. They can either accept reality for what it is and adjust their world-view accordingly, or they can collectively dig themselves deeper into denial.

Of course they don't want to accept reality! Reality has a liberal bias! You gotta get out of the mainstream reality (msr) and go to fantasyland to get the real facts!

How does reality have ANY bias?

Reality doesn't have any ideological bias. That phrase just satirizes how often far-right talking points rely on dismissing objective reality as just an ideologically motivated opinion. Of course not all observers notice this trend.