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19 Feb 2021, 4:00 am

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We don't need to kill people using euthanasia. The asteroid will do it.


Well exactly, I think I will take my chances with the asteroid than be willing to just be killed before the possibility of one hitting. I suspect a death via planet hit by gigantic asteroid big enough to wipe out humanity would be a quick enough death no need to jump in line to die before that though.


But keep your cyanide capsule handy. 8)

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Lol at least if you don't kill yourself before the asteroid, you'll get to literally see a once in a lifetime event before you die.... :lol:


And you will have a lot of company.

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If I had time I might even see if I could grab some acid or shrooms for the big event....just go out tripping looking at an asteroid hitting the earth, that may not even be such a bad death.


I imagine there would be a lot of copulation around that time.
'Death' and the threat of death is an aphrodisiac, after all.
Might as well go out with a bang. :mrgreen:

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Cyanide sounds unpleasant from what I have read...and probably wouldn't even give a good trip.

I'd rather just take some shrooms/acid and watch it happen if it comes to that. I mean imagine the colors I might get to see before I go. Like I suspect seeing an asteroid hitting the earth would make some interesting colors if you were tripping and what a way to spend your last moments. Id rather that than euthanasia in a hospital bed.


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19 Feb 2021, 4:54 am

So many people on this site would be better off going to a doctor than thinking their opinions are political opinions, I swear.


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19 Feb 2021, 7:08 am

Please do not die people. Not until the end of your life.


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19 Feb 2021, 12:59 pm

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And - the sun is going to blow up to a red dwarf in some years. There's a lot of stuff which could make planet Earth unsuitable for human life and which - without a well-prepared plan - could end life on Earth in total chaos.



That isn't going to happen for another five billion years. Even if nothing else has wiped us out by then, we would have evolved so much that we no longer remotely resemble anything that can be described as human.

So it's probably safe to take this one off your list.



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19 Feb 2021, 9:56 pm

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Please do not die people. Not until the end of your life.


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19 Feb 2021, 9:59 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Id rather that than euthanasia in a hospital bed.


Same. 8)



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19 Feb 2021, 10:03 pm

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Kool-Aid anyone?


Soylent Green Kool-Aid anyone? :eew:



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19 Feb 2021, 10:12 pm

Mass euthanasia is an idea that I do not support. Mass euthanasia is a throwback to Nazi Germany. Every time a mass euthanasia takes place, people with disabilities are the first to be murdered. I am staunchly against mass euthanasia, along with assisted suicide and abortion.


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20 Feb 2021, 7:32 am

Pepe wrote:
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Kool-Aid anyone?


Soylent Green Kool-Aid anyone? :eew:


It wouldnt work that way.

It would be... FIRST you drink the Kool-Aid.

THEN ...they collect you, and the other KoolAid drinkers, to grind you up, and make you into Soylent Green - for food for the surviving elect few who are not required to drink the koolaid.



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20 Feb 2021, 12:54 pm

I'm not entirely sure people in this thread actually thought about this.

Whether we're facing global natural disasters or WW3, how can you all be so sure you WANT to survive?

If you were to survive any bad global scenario, you'll witness total destruction, the loss of your entire family and perhaps even become a slave (if you survive WW3 and your country lost to China/Russia).

That's not a life. It's not death either. It's worse than death, and you can't be sure you can end your life in a peaceful and painless way the same way you could before hell broke loose.

For example, I wonder why there were plans to protect civilians during the cold war. Why would I want my life protected? I'd rather be dead than survive WW3. They should've reserved some nukes and conventional weapons, to bomb our own cities, as mercy killing.

I'd strongly prefer to be mercifully killed by my own government, than become a slave of Russia or China.



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20 Feb 2021, 1:52 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
I'm not entirely sure people in this thread actually thought about this.

Whether we're facing global natural disasters or WW3, how can you all be so sure you WANT to survive?

If you were to survive any bad global scenario, you'll witness total destruction, the loss of your entire family and perhaps even become a slave (if you survive WW3 and your country lost to China/Russia).

That's not a life. It's not death either. It's worse than death, and you can't be sure you can end your life in a peaceful and painless way the same way you could before hell broke loose.

For example, I wonder why there were plans to protect civilians during the cold war. Why would I want my life protected? I'd rather be dead than survive WW3. They should've reserved some nukes and conventional weapons, to bomb our own cities, as mercy killing.

I'd strongly prefer to be mercifully killed by my own government, than become a slave of Russia or China.


That fault is not our's (the readers) for "not thinking it through".

The fault is 100 percent yours (you the orignal poster) for not dropping the other shoe, and for not following through and actually explaining WTF you were talking about.

I am boomer who grew up during the decades of the Cold War. So am familiar with the possibility that "the living may envy the dead" after an all out nuclear exchange between the superpowers. Am familiar with projections of how bad things would likely be if something apocalyptic actually happened. And I actually had a feeling that that was what you're asking about. But I still wanted see you say it yourself first.

Waiting for you to simply write something like "yes - a billion will die fast outright, but there would also be several billon more folks in the after math who would be dying slow agonizing deaths- and arguably- those folks we need euthanasia."

OKAY...thanks for FINNALLY dropping the other shoe (after a dozen pages) and for finally telling us wtf you're talking about. I wished you hadnt scapegoated us readers for your failure, but thanks anyway.

So NOW...we all can finally actually begin the discussion because we all finnally know what your talking about.

Okay - so lets take it from the top.

This is my understanding of what you're asking:

If another six mile wide asteroid, like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs, came at us today, and were to hit the earth, it might kill a billion folks outright. Maybe a hundred million, or even a billion, folks would pull through the horrible aftermath and survive to propagate the human race. But there would be several billon folks in between those situations who would be suffering a prolonged death (quasi nuclear winter, and starvation and countless other things).

So you are suggesting that the government and or the UN should...prepare in advance to ...do a mercy killing on all of these billions of people?

A novel suggestion. Never heard that idea floated before.

I agree that some cataclysms will occur at some point in the next thousands of years that will likely cause vast suffering of that kind- cataclysms that we dont today have the ability to stop (like nature inflicting a super volcano eruption on us). But I think that its government's job to save whatever folks it can (if government and other institutions can still function after these events). And not to kill folks it cant save. Governments dont need to prepare in advance to commit "auto genocidal" mercy killing. Thats just a waste of today's resources.

If you driven to off yourself - in the wake of a nuclear war/asteroid hit/supervolcano you dont need the government to help you off yourself. The late Rush Limbaugh would consider that the ultimate in asking too much of the government! And that would be one of the few things I would agree with Limbaugh about.



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20 Feb 2021, 4:30 pm

Mass euthanasia by governments? What could possibly go wrong...

Just let me buy a ticket to where the asteroid will be hitting. I'm sure the fireworks display will be something I'll remember for the rest of my life. For multiple reasons. :)


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20 Feb 2021, 7:22 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
I'm not entirely sure people in this thread actually thought about this.

Whether we're facing global natural disasters or WW3, how can you all be so sure you WANT to survive?

If you were to survive any bad global scenario, you'll witness total destruction, the loss of your entire family and perhaps even become a slave (if you survive WW3 and your country lost to China/Russia).

That's not a life. It's not death either. It's worse than death, and you can't be sure you can end your life in a peaceful and painless way the same way you could before hell broke loose.

For example, I wonder why there were plans to protect civilians during the cold war. Why would I want my life protected? I'd rather be dead than survive WW3. They should've reserved some nukes and conventional weapons, to bomb our own cities, as mercy killing.

I'd strongly prefer to be mercifully killed by my own government, than become a slave of Russia or China.


Well I would prefer to stay alive and try and survive...even if I have to face something horrible in the future. I don't want to die, though I know it is inevitable but I'd still like to put it off as long as possible.

Gandalf says something to Frodo like 'you cannot choose the time you are given, you can only choose what to do with that time.' What if Frodo killed himself to avoid the horrors he'd have to face to destroy the ring? What if Gandalf mercy killed Frodo on the basis of he didn't want him to suffer the horrors of Mordor.

Also, the government using nukes and conventional weapons to mercy kill us all does not sound all that peaceful of a way to go either, that just sounds horrifying. And for sure slavery would suck, but I have read a lot of accounts from jews who were in internment camps during the holocaust seems many who survived were grateful to have lived through it even though they did still have trauma.


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20 Feb 2021, 7:41 pm

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No.

Stephen Hawking wrote:
"However bad life may seem," he explained, "there is always something you can do, and succeed at." "While there's life, there is hope."


Humans, like every other species, adapt & survive. We're not going to just simply give up and plan our own demise. That's absurd.


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20 Feb 2021, 7:48 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
I'm not entirely sure people in this thread actually thought about this.

Whether we're facing global natural disasters or WW3, how can you all be so sure you WANT to survive?


A rational person wouldn't.

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If you were to survive any bad global scenario, you'll witness total destruction, the loss of your entire family and perhaps even become a slave (if you survive WW3 and your country lost to China/Russia).

That's not a life. It's not death either. It's worse than death, and you can't be sure you can end your life in a peaceful and painless way the same way you could before hell broke loose.


Agreed.

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For example, I wonder why there were plans to protect civilians during the cold war. Why would I want my life protected? I'd rather be dead than survive WW3. They should've reserved some nukes and conventional weapons, to bomb our own cities, as mercy killing.

I'd strongly prefer to be mercifully killed by my own government, than become a slave of Russia or China.


Agreed.
Better dead than red, in my book.
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20 Feb 2021, 7:54 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

Well I would prefer to stay alive and try and survive...even if I have to face something horrible in the future. I don't want to die, though I know it is inevitable but I'd still like to put it off as long as possible.


Another victim of the mindless/selfish evolutionary process. :roll: :mrgreen:

As I say: "Evolution favours stupidity."

I am not calling you 'stupid', btw.
People are simply victims of their involuntary DNA programming. 8)