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09 Oct 2021, 1:01 pm

I know a woman who has had several strokes who is sensitive to radio transmissions down to -75 dbm.
On the other hand, I hold 5 watt (+35dbm) handheld radios up to my face all the time and nothing happens.
Good thing she's not married to a ham radio operator...


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09 Oct 2021, 2:56 pm

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Careful, Ms. J … you should never let a YouTube video do your thinking for you.


Thank you Fnord ... and i agree ......

just coincidentally Have you done any reading on Royal Raymond Rife ....... perhaps not directly related but almost sounded like a,symbiotic thing . Radio frequency thing sounded similiar .
btw have experienced The Rife machine and is effects . So this piqued my curiousity .


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09 Oct 2021, 3:34 pm

old_comedywriter wrote:
I know a woman who has had several strokes who is sensitive to radio transmissions down to -75 dbm.
On the other hand, I hold 5 watt (+35dbm) handheld radios up to my face all the time and nothing happens.
Good thing she's not married to a ham radio operator...


How does she sense these radio transmissions?

What is the sensation that she has?



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09 Oct 2021, 3:56 pm

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… Have you done any reading on Royal Raymond Rife ... perhaps not directly related but almost sounded like a, symbiotic thing. Radio frequency thing sounded similar. btw have experienced The Rife machine and is effects . So this piqued my curiousity.
The “Rife Machine” is quackery, and any effects you think you experienced were likely imagined. Devices that were professed to use Rife's processes were marketed, manufactured, and sold in several countries as a “cure” for cancer, AIDS, and other conditions. Many patients died after using these discredited devices, including persons that could have survived using conventional beneficial therapies, and multiple promoters were convicted of health fraud and sent to prison.

This type of quackery is under the category of “Radionics” — the false claim that cells emit and are affected by radio waves that the Radionics device detect/emit when the device itself has absolutely no radio-frequency components. A typical 'Rife device' consisted only of a nine-volt battery, some wiring, a switch, a timer, and two short lengths of copper tubing — no oscillators, no amplifiers, and no RF tuning whatsoever.


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09 Oct 2021, 6:03 pm

Risking a tongue lashing from Fnord .. Wish to offer practical thought on Radio waves, and various frequencies having magnetic properties , and can be varied , tuning coils , intensity , .
When tissues is observed on a celluar level , it has been show to behave in different ways.
Even cooking it .And burning it. All depending on frequency time and intensity .. 1500 watt microwave will cook something faster than a 1000 watt microwave. And Other frequencies can do other things . Thermography is on a different wavelength, Surgical implants to expidite healing .
Operate on yet a different wavelength . Different things may or will respond differently to different frequencies . Think Testla type ideas. Just offered as food for thought.


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09 Oct 2021, 6:55 pm

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... When tissues is observed on a cellular level, it has been show to behave in different ways...
Evidence, please?

Diathermy machines, Infrared cameras, Microwave ovens, Radio/Radar, and Tesla coils all operate on legitimate physical principles that are well-established, defined mathematically, and that I spent years to understand.

"Radionics" devices, on the other hand, all allegedly operate from the same "secret" principles claimed by mediums, psychics, and other charlatans (i.e., auras, chi, orgone, et cetera), or from one or more of the 13 "Laws of Magick".

The mere fact that the word "Radionics" is a portmanteau of "Radio" and "Electronics" does not prove that it has anything to do with legitimate science, but only that someone was once clever enough to come up with a label that sounds good to ordinary people who lack any scientific background.

If you want to waste your time, money, and health on "quack" treatments like radionics, then that is your problem (not mine); just do not blame real science (or me) for your untreated illnesses and eventual death from your reliance on radionics devices.


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09 Oct 2021, 7:37 pm

well molecules in a high or intense radio wave , causes molecules in water to vibrate.
why then would other frequencies ' not ' cause effects at other atomic levels ? in other molecular mediums . Am limited on the examples , i can bring to this discussion, for am somewhat limited in my research here.. Am imagining that salt water in a microwave might boil more slowly than regular water. So perhaps if as in neon various gases illuminate to high voltages also . Am wondering if subtle voltages /magnetic feilds might affect other things .. As in CB radio some frequencies can affect the image on old style tv sets . But not all CB channels would do that. The image in your digital tv set ,how over the air a radiowave can be used to create all thise colourful images And the microcircuitry it has to effect to create those images . Next the weak radio signals /magnetic feilds in your cellphones ability to create tumours.
( and btw term Radionics was never a accurate term i feel but a version of hype to coin a new term.
From the 1930s approx , i think.) But i think there might have been something behind the science.
If thought about from the ideal of magnetic feilds .


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09 Oct 2021, 7:55 pm

Jakki wrote:
well molecules in a high or intense radio wave , causes molecules in water to vibrate.
why then would other frequencies ' not ' cause effects at other atomic levels ? in other molecular mediums . Am limited on the examples , i can bring to this discussion, for am somewhat limited in my research here.. Am imagining that salt water in a microwave might boil more slowly than regular water. So perhaps if as in neon various gases illuminate to high voltages also . Am wondering if subtle voltages /magnetic feilds might affect other things .. As in CB radio some frequencies can affect the image on old style tv sets . But not all CB channels would do that. The image in your digital tv set ,how over the air a radiowave can be used to create all thise colourful images And the microcircuitry it has to effect to create those images . Next the weak radio signals /magnetic feilds in your cellphones ability to create tumours.
( and btw term Radionics was never a accurate term i feel but a version of hype to coin a new term.
From the 1930s approx , i think.) But i think there might have been something behind the science.
If thought about from the ideal of magnetic feilds .
It seems obvious that your education is not of the STEM variety.

All you have described does NOT relate to the alleged effects of Radionics.


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09 Oct 2021, 9:01 pm

if such,a thing as Radionics actually existed , i could easily say that your education is obviously based on STEM education type levels . ie. boxed type education .But it is not my position to try to describe radionics .


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09 Oct 2021, 9:26 pm

Jakki wrote:
if such,a thing as Radionics actually existed , i could easily say that your education is obviously based on STEM education type levels . ie. boxed type education .But it is not my position to try to describe radionics .


chances are weak magnetic fields do affect things weakly. But the likelihood of there being some coordinated effect that in turns has some cordinated biological effect are very small - more likely, there's a physical effect: things absorb the energy and get warm. like, you know, in a microwave.
the expected biological effect would be proteins breaking apart, and the tissue/organism will die. like a hamster in a microwave.

a complex signal lije a tv broadcast dpesn't improve through interfering radiation either, so there's no reason to assume anything complex like biological processes will improve from interference.

a hot water bottle also will warm you up - so far no one has claimed it'll cure viral infections.


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09 Oct 2021, 9:38 pm

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old_comedywriter wrote:
I know a woman who has had several strokes who is sensitive to radio transmissions down to -75 dbm.
On the other hand, I hold 5 watt (+35dbm) handheld radios up to my face all the time and nothing happens.
Good thing she's not married to a ham radio operator...

How does she sense these radio transmissions?
What is the sensation that she has?

She refers to it as a "pinging" sensation. Also a headache.


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09 Oct 2021, 9:51 pm

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A typical 'Rife device' consisted only of a nine-volt battery, some wiring, a switch, a timer, and two short lengths of copper tubing — no oscillators, no amplifiers, and no RF tuning whatsoever.

And probably potted in epoxy too.

I've seen some serious quackery (translated: superstition) among supposedly technical types too. The body does not emit RF radiation, but I keep getting people telling me that the body does not conduct RF, especially as a counterpoise for a low frequency radio at, say, 3.5 MHz. I read and personally confirmed by testing that the capacitance of an average hand placed on a metal surface (radio housing) is 2200 picofarads, enough for coupling at lower frequencies. It may not be the best RF grounding for a handheld transceiver or shortwave receiver, but it does work.


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10 Oct 2021, 9:52 am

old_comedywriter wrote:
Fnord wrote:
A typical 'Rife device' consisted only of a nine-volt battery, some wiring, a switch, a timer, and two short lengths of copper tubing — no oscillators, no amplifiers, and no RF tuning whatsoever.
And probably potted in epoxy too. I've seen some serious quackery (translated: superstition) among supposedly technical types too. The body does not emit RF radiation, but I keep getting people telling me that the body does not conduct RF, especially as a counterpoise for a low frequency radio at, say, 3.5 MHz. I read and personally confirmed by testing that the capacitance of an average hand placed on a metal surface (radio housing) is 2200 picofarads, enough for coupling at lower frequencies. It may not be the best RF grounding for a handheld transceiver or shortwave receiver, but it does work.
Many HTs I have used seem designed to rely upon this counterpoise principle, so I modified a few to provide external access to their internal “ground” buses. Even when connected to “earth ground” through my workbench mains, reception was improved by as much as 6dB over being unconnected. Not on every frequency, though.


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10 Oct 2021, 10:05 am

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… the likelihood of there being some coordinated effect that in turns has some cordinated biological effect are very small - more likely, there's a physical effect: things absorb the energy and get warm. …
Unless this heating is intentional, such as with diathermy, the energy used to produce the heat is completely wasted, and provides no medical benefit whatsoever.


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10 Oct 2021, 2:20 pm

Incredibly insightful and well written concept , in the form of prose aghogday ..
Most impressive that you have come so far.!


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