carlos55 wrote:
As a Brit I’m not keen on Borris Johnson either but I dislike Labour Kier Starmer more.
The weird thing about politics in UK and US is when a party is elected they sit on their base and reach over the other side, I believe this is essential to ensure they get voted in again
So vote Labour and get Tories like with the Blair gov which made lots of rich people richer.
The same seems to be true in the US that has got a Trump 2nd term under Biden with his anti China policy and a few other things I heard that can’t recall.
Funny old world politics
it's not weird at all but almost universal in the western world. the point being tgat the moderate right/conservatives and the moderate left form "the center", and that center is meant to protect a certain status quo of a globalized economy from "far" left or right ideas.
The most remarkable thing is that some far right (I mean, the fascist far right) ideas are the same as far left ones, like universal healthcare (in the fascist version exclusively for "us", whoever "we" is) - while the centre parties either deconstruct existing systems or hinder them from getting implemented in the first place.
and that's the point where you should realize that talking about right, left and centre obfuscates something: centre isn't actual the middle way between extremes, it's the neoliberal mainstream.
So, whether you vote for Blair or Trump, Schroeder or Thatcher or Metkel or Obama - and now Scholz in Germany - none of these actually provide anything fundamentally different. They're neoliberal mainstream. If you want ideas that differ, you have to look beyond the two centre parties which provode the illusion of choice - and to the "extreme" parties. The problem is, reasonable ideas that are not neoliberal are lumped in and labelled "extreme" together with neo-nazis and royalists (okay, I admit, that may appear less weird in the UK, but it is, in 2021, really, really weird).
So, I don't know where to look, but not at either of the big, centrist parties.
Both Corbyn and Bernie Sanders tried to re-infuse their respective parties with some of those reasonable "extremist" ideas, and were labelled crazy communists for it.
But the real illuaion is, of course, that we can go on another ten years without some actually lunatic fascist (not buffoons like Johnson or Trump) getting into office in some important country. (who cares about Hungary, Poland, Belarus, Austria, and so on...)
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