Woke Union Busting?
Mona Pereth wrote:
As I suspected. You're not in a position to evaluate how much work teachers (especially the good ones) do outside the classroom, in terms of preparation and grading.
I'm sorry to hear that you had such bad experiences in school. But it does not follow that teachers in general are overpaid.
If you say so. Even as a conservative, I'm pro-union overall; I caught a little bit of heat for this from my QAnon friends. But I'm against unions for privileged, government-backed jobs, like teachers. They DON'T NEED unions. The state government is basically their union; it panders to them all the time, giving them free money for not coming to work. As opposed to people working in steel mills and auto plants, or even office plankton like IT technicians and administrative assistants, the jobs at high risk of exploitation and labor law violations. They're the ones who actually DO need unions.
I'm sorry to hear that you had such bad experiences in school. But it does not follow that teachers in general are overpaid.
Aspie1 wrote:
But I'm against unions for privileged, government-backed jobs, like teachers. They DON'T NEED unions. The state government is basically their union; it panders to them all the time, giving them free money for not coming to work.
What do you mean by "giving them free money for not coming to work"? Are you claiming that work from home, via Zoom or whatever, isn't work?
Aspie1 wrote:
As opposed to people working in steel mills and auto plants,
Those jobs obviously do need to be in-person. However....
Aspie1 wrote:
or even office plankton like IT technicians and administrative assistants, the jobs at high risk of exploitation and labor law violations.
Most IT technicians and administrative assistants have been working from home these days, just like teachers. What's the relevant difference?
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Mona Pereth wrote:
Most IT technicians and administrative assistants have been working from home these days, just like teachers. What's the relevant difference?
Maybe for admins who send emails and schedule meetings, but not for IT techs. A lot of computer problems can't be fixed from afar. If you can't connect to a computer remotely to fix it, the only real option is to get in front of it. And that's where my current job comes in. My state doesn't have a quarantine order now, so that's a moot point. But even if had one, I wouldn't be following it even for one day, thanks to my QAnon friends' willingness to continue socializing. In 2020, we often drove out of state just to feel like free Americans. Then again, 2022 is a midterm election year; Democrats are now afraid of locking things down, lest they lose the election to the pro-freedom Republicans.
Dox47 wrote:
[Well, when I'm presented with a slick anti-union presentation that starts off with pronouns and land acknowledgements,
I was under the impression that, on the West Coast, pronouns and land acknowledgements had become so routine and commonplace that they no longer were much of a mark of "wokeness."
(Land acknowledgements are not nearly as commonplace here on the East Coast as they apparently are on the West Coast. Here they would actually be more of a mark of "wokeness.")
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Aspie1 wrote:
in cushy, government-provided occupations like teaching, unions are a money-sucking deadweight.
It may be different in the USA for all I know, but in the UK it's not unheard of for public-sector workers to be exploited and abused by management. I don't know of any per se reason why the public sector would necessarily be any more inefficient or less harsh than the private sector. Though I do agree that pressure groups rarely know when to stop promoting their own non-wholistic interests.
