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22 Feb 2022, 12:29 pm

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I'm nearly 60 years old and I've watched this s**t show my entire adult life. You, barely into adulthood, are trying to school me on the politics of a country in which you don't reside.I find that hilarious.


But, you're outside of the approved Overton window, so the Well Ackchyually types will talk down and expect you to not use your eyes or your own critical thinking.


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22 Feb 2022, 12:52 pm

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I'm nearly 60 years old and I've watched this s**t show my entire adult life. You, barely into adulthood, are trying to school me on the politics of a country in which you don't reside.I find that hilarious.


But, you're outside of the approved Overton window, so the Well Ackchyually types will talk down and expect you to not use your eyes or your own critical thinking.


Yep!


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22 Feb 2022, 1:30 pm

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When exactly have you provided evidence? You look up stuff on the internet and regurgitate it here.

Perhaps you should try it. You wouldn’t make so many mistakes if you did.

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I'm nearly 60 years old and I've watched this s**t show my entire adult life. You, barely into adulthood, are trying to school me on the politics of a country in which you don't reside.I find that hilarious.

Unfortunately age does not automatically translate into knowledge. Do you want to actually engage with the points I have made, or simply assert that you are right because you’re old?

After all, it would be fairly trivial for me to find someone who is older than you, more politically engaged than you, and just as American as you, who disagrees with you. Ask Jim Clyburn if he thinks the Republicans and the Democrats are the same.

Frankly, appealing to your personal knowledge would be more effective if you hadn’t already admitted that you don’t know the differences between the political parties in your country. This isn’t exactly a deep, dark secret, it is information which any politically engaged American will be able to recall. You can’t simultaneously credibly claim to be an authority while also boasting that you don’t understand the very basics of the topic.



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22 Feb 2022, 1:45 pm

It's funny how people can say they are done with you but keep responding. I guess they need to get their last word in. :lol:


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22 Feb 2022, 1:56 pm

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It's funny how people can say they are done with you but keep responding. I guess they need to get their last word in. :lol:


It's a basic human trait of which I'm equally guilty as most humans on this forum.

Do you have anthing of value to add to the conversation? I'd love to hear it.


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22 Feb 2022, 4:36 pm

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Oh, Lord! All your arguments are about what politicians promise, not what they actually follow through on.

Erm, no, they’re not.

There is an extent to which the US system of checks and balances is inherently conservative and makes it difficult to implement all of one’s promises. But there are differences in how the two parties govern, too.

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When you say things like "Biden is a lifelong Democrat" in response to my claim that he has voted right-wing most of his career, it's painstakingly obvious you have no knowledge of the evolution of the Democratic Party the last 30 years.





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Do you really expect me to continue responding to your posts much longer? I'm tired of slumming at this point.

I’m not sure anything you have said quite qualifies as a response, truthfully. You simply state your views in a more forceful way without engaging with anything that has been said. Indeed, you still haven’t answered why it is OK for you to ignore nuance, but not OK for anyone else.


When exactly have you provided evidence? You look up stuff on the internet and regurgitate it here.

I'm nearly 60 years old and I've watched this s**t show my entire adult life. You, barely into adulthood, are trying to school me on the politics of a country in which you don't reside.I find that hilarious.


"You go, gurl!" :thumright: :mrgreen:

I hope this isn't the reason you have decided to leave.



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22 Feb 2022, 4:38 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
It's funny how people can say they are done with you but keep responding. I guess they need to get their last word in. :lol:


It's a basic human trait of which I'm equally guilty as most humans on this forum.

Do you have anthing of value to add to the conversation? I'd love to hear it.


Me too. ;)



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22 Feb 2022, 5:22 pm

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Yes there is intersectionality. That's my entire point. We are all intersectional in one way or another, regardless of our skin colour or our sex / gender - especially on WP. I wish the media focus was less on race / sex / American political pigeonholes, than on real human beings with real human stories.


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Yes, that was my point too. The media focuses on what are the burning issues and what happened in 2016 was a wake up call to the media that they were out of touch with the American public. Since 2016 they keep a much closer eye to social media than before.

Not terribly surprising that race/sex/politics etc are still hot button issues that most men turn to when they aren't reading the sports pages and women turn to when they aren't reading the fashion/health/gossip/shopping section.



If they keep a closer eye, is that perspective reflected in political coverage, social media, and culture?

I'm not talking about human interest stories and virtue signalling on primetime news.
I'm talking about the awareness political media affords to other marginalised groups, and their political thought.

When is the last time you heard political media calling out or discussing ableism, misandry, and autism rights?
Do pollsters consider the voting patterns of trauma victims vs non-trauma victims?
Neurotypical people vs neurodiverse?
What about intersectionality like homeless transgendered immigrants with mental illness?

Last I checked, they only slice the pie two or three ways: race, gender, and whether the person is considered to be right wing or left wing (which is not a fixed trait, because it can change -- and many people are centrists or apolitical -- not to mention the fact that most people in society judge others' political wing based on assumption, without knowing them).

Nothing else ever seems to matter, even though there are many other interest groups.

Also I just wanted to point out that women don't read "fashion, health, gossip, and shopping".
That's rather sexist to say. ^ :twisted: / jokes


I agree with everything you have said here, Isabella.


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22 Feb 2022, 5:29 pm

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I thought this pretty funny. I don't know how many times I've been called a right-wing, a Trump supporter, etc, simply because my views don't align with the establishment narrative pushed by MSM.



I remember telling people over & over that I was a 2nd wave feminist, pro-British, non-communist individual who was poor and on JSA and that not only that I liked black people, but I wore clothes typically associated with black folk, in real life.

I got face-painted as a Nazi sympathising, woman-abusing, Trump extremist for a long time, on the cheap dime of a word, of some radical feminist extremists who knew almost nothing of my life and who still know very little in terms of content/occurences (even if they were to read everything I have put out on the internet).

One of my granddads lived as a Christian monk in a monastery for a good portion of his life (and was an engineer) & my other granddad is an unsung British war hero.

Clearly, that is a recipe for being provoked by being called a Nazi (since some folk probably know this will piss someone off like me).


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