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21 Apr 2022, 7:08 am

luckystrike.es wrote:
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There really aren’t too many of these “activist” teachers in primary schools.

Many teachers have conservative values, too.

The main focus in early primary school classrooms is keeping order in the class. There’s really not much time for “activism.”

Agreed.

One might question the motives of anyone suggesting this is a rampant problem in public grade schools.


Has anyone said or suggested, in this thread, that this problem is "rampant"?
Just checking. ;)

Yes. The OP when it was suggested that these teachers are outliers and, at the very least, the 3rd presenter.

I prefer facts and logic over fear mongering and conspiracy theories.

I do not accept challenges to prove the Boogeyman does not exist.

The strongest opinion I have shared in this thread is that critical thinking skills are important. You, of course, are free to disagree.


You misunderstand.
I meant, has any WP poster said activist teachers are rampant?



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21 Apr 2022, 10:05 am

Pepe wrote:
luckystrike.es wrote:
Pepe wrote:
luckystrike.es wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There really aren’t too many of these “activist” teachers in primary schools.

Many teachers have conservative values, too.

The main focus in early primary school classrooms is keeping order in the class. There’s really not much time for “activism.”

Agreed.

One might question the motives of anyone suggesting this is a rampant problem in public grade schools.


Has anyone said or suggested, in this thread, that this problem is "rampant"?
Just checking. ;)

Yes. The OP when it was suggested that these teachers are outliers and, at the very least, the 3rd presenter.

I prefer facts and logic over fear mongering and conspiracy theories.

I do not accept challenges to prove the Boogeyman does not exist.

The strongest opinion I have shared in this thread is that critical thinking skills are important. You, of course, are free to disagree.


You misunderstand.
I meant, has any WP poster said activist teachers are rampant?


Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
This person is almost certainly an outlier.

This is not what goes on in the vast, vast majority of classrooms.


There seems to be a lot of "outliers". ;)

Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There really aren’t too many of these “activist” teachers in primary schools.


This one suggests differently:
viewtopic.php?t=404668#p9000407

There is nothing for me here


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21 Apr 2022, 3:51 pm

Pepe wrote:
I'm not sure what to think about this.
"Don't shoot the messenger."

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Activist teachers recruit kids and lies to parents
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In this episode of The Bald Brad Show, activist teachers recruit kids and lies to parents regarding attempts to brainwash students in thinking they are transgender. Jessica Konen filed a legal claim against Spreckels Union School District, claiming Buena Vista Middle School teachers Lori Caldeira and Kelly Baraki “planted the seed” to convince Konen’s daughter to believe she was bisexual, then urged the girl to believe she was a transgender boy. These woke teachers are recruiting children into their indoctrination clubs and hiding it from parents. Watch Bald Brad, an educator himself, expose our current education system.


To me it sounds like a parent in denial. Pretty common for parents whose kids don't turn out the way they wanted to search for someone to blame. It's the same sort of thing that led to the anti-vax movement.



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21 Apr 2022, 6:18 pm

luckystrike.es wrote:
Pepe wrote:
luckystrike.es wrote:
Pepe wrote:
luckystrike.es wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There really aren’t too many of these “activist” teachers in primary schools.

Many teachers have conservative values, too.

The main focus in early primary school classrooms is keeping order in the class. There’s really not much time for “activism.”

Agreed.

One might question the motives of anyone suggesting this is a rampant problem in public grade schools.


Has anyone said or suggested, in this thread, that this problem is "rampant"?
Just checking. ;)

Yes. The OP when it was suggested that these teachers are outliers and, at the very least, the 3rd presenter.

I prefer facts and logic over fear mongering and conspiracy theories.

I do not accept challenges to prove the Boogeyman does not exist.

The strongest opinion I have shared in this thread is that critical thinking skills are important. You, of course, are free to disagree.


You misunderstand.
I meant, has any WP poster said activist teachers are rampant?


Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
This person is almost certainly an outlier.

This is not what goes on in the vast, vast majority of classrooms.


There seems to be a lot of "outliers". ;)

Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There really aren’t too many of these “activist” teachers in primary schools.


This one suggests differently:
viewtopic.php?t=404668#p9000407

There is nothing for me here


You understand how "context" works, right?
"A lot", in this context, doesn't mean it is "rampant". 8)



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22 Apr 2022, 8:58 am

flamingshorts wrote:
Stop living in denial.
You first.
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Issues like LGBTQI+, BLM, Climate change are part a larger conspiracy.
Evidence, please?
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It involves getting control of education and media. Corrupting political parties.
Evidence, please?
flamingshorts wrote:
Pedophilia and Freemasonry are part of the control mechanism.
Evidence, please?
flamingshorts wrote:
Been planned for a long time.
Evidence, please?
flamingshorts wrote:
I don't have all the details and answers . . .
That is the only obvious thing about your posts.
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The supporters of LGBTQI+, BLM, Climate change and communism will be the first executed or imprisoned. . .
Evidence, please?



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22 Apr 2022, 9:01 am

Fnord wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
Stop living in denial.
You first.
flamingshorts wrote:
Issues like LGBTQI+, BLM, Climate change are part a larger conspiracy.
Evidence, please?
flamingshorts wrote:
It involves getting control of education and media. Corrupting political parties.
Evidence, please?
flamingshorts wrote:
Pedophilia and Freemasonry are part of the control mechanism.
Evidence, please?
flamingshorts wrote:
Been planned for a long time.
Evidence, please?
flamingshorts wrote:
I don't have all the details and answers . . .
That is the only obvious thing about your posts.
flamingshorts wrote:
The supporters of LGBTQI+, BLM, Climate change and communism will be the first executed or imprisoned. . .
Evidence, please?


I don't have a problem with you asking for evidence. 8)



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22 Apr 2022, 9:56 am

Fnord wrote:
...Evidence, please?[/color]


The best evidence I can find is a masterclass from an expert in the field, Yuri Bezmenov.
Different enemy, different sleepers, same tactics. Listen to the entire lecture.

Your specific answer is at 44:30 to 45:05

YURI BEZMENOV - PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE SUBVERSION & CONTROL OF WESTERN SOCIETY



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22 Apr 2022, 10:36 am

flamingshorts wrote:
Fnord wrote:
...Evidence, please?
The best evidence I can find is a masterclass from an expert in the field, Yuri Bezmenov.
Different enemy, different sleepers, same tactics. Listen to the entire lecture.

Your specific answer is at 44:30 to 45:05

YURI BEZMENOV - PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE SUBVERSION & CONTROL OF WESTERN SOCIETY
If that is your best, then try again.

• Yuri Bezmenov (a well-known conspiracy theorist) gave an interview in 1984.  This interview was used in the teaser for the video game Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War, in addition to its use in the main introduction.

• BitChute is known for accommodating far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.

Do you have any evidence that comes from reputable sources?



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22 Apr 2022, 12:40 pm

Fnord wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
Fnord wrote:
...Evidence, please?
The best evidence I can find is a masterclass from an expert in the field, Yuri Bezmenov.
Different enemy, different sleepers, same tactics. Listen to the entire lecture.

Your specific answer is at 44:30 to 45:05

YURI BEZMENOV - PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE SUBVERSION & CONTROL OF WESTERN SOCIETY
If that is your best, then try again.

• Yuri Bezmenov (a well-known conspiracy theorist) gave an interview in 1984.  This interview was used in the teaser for the video game Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War, in addition to its use in the main introduction.

• BitChute is known for accommodating far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.

Do you have any evidence that comes from reputable sources?

There was a goalpost. It was RIGHT THERE...



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22 Apr 2022, 12:45 pm

AngelRho wrote:
Fnord wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
Fnord wrote:
...Evidence, please?
The best evidence I can find is a masterclass from an expert in the field, Yuri Bezmenov.
Different enemy, different sleepers, same tactics. Listen to the entire lecture.

Your specific answer is at 44:30 to 45:05

YURI BEZMENOV - PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE SUBVERSION & CONTROL OF WESTERN SOCIETY
If that is your best, then try again.

• Yuri Bezmenov (a well-known conspiracy theorist) gave an interview in 1984.  This interview was used in the teaser for the video game Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War, in addition to its use in the main introduction.

• BitChute is known for accommodating far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.

Do you have any evidence that comes from reputable sources?
There was a goalpost. It was RIGHT THERE...
There is no need to shift the goalposts when the player carrying the ball never reaches them.

While Yuri Bezmenov may have had a few good ideas, few people -- other than video game companies -- seem to have embraced them.

BitChute, Gab, and any others have already lost credibility by virtue of being conspiracy theory websites.

Gimme science, not speeches.



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22 Apr 2022, 12:57 pm

Fnord wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Fnord wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
Fnord wrote:
...Evidence, please?
The best evidence I can find is a masterclass from an expert in the field, Yuri Bezmenov.
Different enemy, different sleepers, same tactics. Listen to the entire lecture.

Your specific answer is at 44:30 to 45:05

YURI BEZMENOV - PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE SUBVERSION & CONTROL OF WESTERN SOCIETY
If that is your best, then try again.

• Yuri Bezmenov (a well-known conspiracy theorist) gave an interview in 1984.  This interview was used in the teaser for the video game Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War, in addition to its use in the main introduction.

• BitChute is known for accommodating far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.

Do you have any evidence that comes from reputable sources?
There was a goalpost. It was RIGHT THERE...
There is no need to shift the goalposts when the player carrying the ball never reaches them.

While Yuri Bezmenov may have had a few good ideas, few people -- other than video game companies -- seem to have embraced them.

BitChute, Gab, and any others have already lost credibility by virtue of being conspiracy theory websites.

Gimme science, not speeches.

You set a goalpost by asking for evidence. He gave you evidence. You declared his evidence to not be evidence. You should have been clear about exactly what you meant or what you'd accept as evidence.



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22 Apr 2022, 2:06 pm

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. . . You should have been clear about exactly what you meant or what you'd accept as evidence.
You are right.  I should have stated that I want only valid and thoroughly vetted empirical evidence arrived at by scientific method, and not some esoteric bushlit pulled from random social media websites devoted to conspiracy theories or populated by known conspiracy theorists.

Then again, I have known for over 50 years that accusations, beliefs, doctored images and videos, innuendos, lies, opinions, rumors, slogans, and spurious ideas are not now, never have been, nor ever will be valid and thoroughly vetted empirical evidence arrived at by scientific method.

I made the mistake of assuming that everyone else knows this too.

My bad.



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22 Apr 2022, 6:25 pm

Perhaps Academic Agent can contribute. Is this affecting education today? If so is it organic or directed? I am more suspicious than Academic Agent.

Demoralization: What Yuri Bezmenov Didn't Tell You



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22 Apr 2022, 6:32 pm

I had an English teacher once who presented material on Communism.

I wrote a parody of it and passed it around the class.

She wanted to teach creative writing, and she got it.


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22 Apr 2022, 6:33 pm

Never let YouTube do your thinking for you.



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22 Apr 2022, 6:53 pm

Fnord wrote:
Never let YouTube do your thinking for you.


That didn't make sense the first time you said it and it makes no sense now. YouTube is a social media platform with a variety of voices, from crackpots to legitimate channels and journalists.


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