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12 Aug 2007, 7:22 pm

Ragtime wrote:

For me, this was the crucial aspect of the sexuality question we were discussing:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41090

You're making it look like I said you can be gay without wanting to have gay sex. Well, in a way you can. But that's not what I said.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:22 pm

calandale wrote:

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I don't care if other people think of themselves as straight just because they don't haves ex with people of the same sex, but Ragtime was claiming that of other people as well.

Yeah. I don't see why it's such a big deal
with him. He should probably just go test
out his feelings, so that he can be certain.

Oh, I'm certain. (But not "positive"

(90's joke))

I was asked my opinion. I answered honestly.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:24 pm

Ragtime wrote:

calandale wrote:

Sopho wrote:

I don't care if other people think of themselves as straight just because they don't haves ex with people of the same sex, but Ragtime was claiming that of other people as well.

Yeah. I don't see why it's such a big deal
with him. He should probably just go test
out his feelings, so that he can be certain.

Oh, I'm certain. (But not "positive"

(90's joke))

I was asked my opinion. I answered honestly.

So if, when I was in denial about my sexuality, I had gone and had sex with a man to try and 'make myself straight' or prove to myself that I was straight, that in itself would have actually mean that I was straight?

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12 Aug 2007, 7:26 pm

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

For me, this was the crucial aspect of the sexuality question we were discussing:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41090

You're making it look like I said you can be gay without wanting to have gay sex. Well, in a way you can. But that's not what I said.

This logical conclusion is quite interesting

That would mean that I'm not straight because I never had straight sex.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:27 pm

greenblue wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

For me, this was the crucial aspect of the sexuality question we were discussing:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41090

You're making it look like I said you can be gay without wanting to have gay sex. Well, in a way you can. But that's not what I said.

This logical conclusion is quite interesting

That would mean that I'm not straight because I never had straight sex.

Or if you had some crazy phobia of contracting an STD and never wanted to have sex with someone because of that. There are alsorts of weird reasons people might not want sex, but still be sexually attracted to people.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:29 pm

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

calandale wrote:

Sopho wrote:

I don't care if other people think of themselves as straight just because they don't haves ex with people of the same sex, but Ragtime was claiming that of other people as well.

Yeah. I don't see why it's such a big deal
with him. He should probably just go test
out his feelings, so that he can be certain.

Oh, I'm certain. (But not "positive"

(90's joke))

I was asked my opinion. I answered honestly.

If you wanted him sexually, it would at least make you bi. And there's no "denial" phase; I am what I want to be -- I don't live in a class system.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:30 pm

Sopho wrote:

greenblue wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

For me, this was the crucial aspect of the sexuality question we were discussing:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41090

You're making it look like I said you can be gay without wanting to have gay sex. Well, in a way you can. But that's not what I said.

This logical conclusion is quite interesting

That would mean that I'm not straight because I never had straight sex.

Yeah, like catholic priests and nuns, they are not straight at all because they choose to have a lifestyle without sex?

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12 Aug 2007, 7:31 pm

Ragtime wrote:

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If you wanted him sexually, it would at least make you bi. And there's no "denial" phase; I am what I want to be -- I don't live in a class system.

But that's just it - I wouldn't have wanted him sexually, I have never been sexually attracted to a man in my life. And there is a denial phase for a lot of people. Maybe you've never been in denial, but that's because you're straight.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:32 pm

greenblue wrote:

Sopho wrote:

greenblue wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

For me, this was the crucial aspect of the sexuality question we were discussing:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41090

You're making it look like I said you can be gay without wanting to have gay sex. Well, in a way you can. But that's not what I said.

This logical conclusion is quite interesting

That would mean that I'm not straight because I never had straight sex.

Yeah, like catholic priests and nuns, they are not straight at all because they choose to have a lifestyle without sex?

Exactly. There are plenty of people who don't want to have sex for moral reasons or whatever. Can't change the fact that they have a sexuality though.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:32 pm

greenblue wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

For me, this was the crucial aspect of the sexuality question we were discussing:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41090

You're making it look like I said you can be gay without wanting to have gay sex. Well, in a way you can. But that's not what I said.

This logical conclusion is quite interesting

That would mean that I'm not straight because I never had straight sex.

Wrong again gb, but that's okay.

No, my definition is about wanting to screw a girl versus wanting to screw a guy.
And I seperate feeling from wanting -- the former being a sensation, the latter being a decision.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:36 pm

greenblue wrote:

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We all know what answers that end up being got from a thread like this depend on how the question is posed, dont we Sopho. This is such a pointless little thread, stop acting so infantile and a sore loser.

lol It's not a pointless thread at all. Ragtime was saying I was abnormal and that most people wouldn't agree with me on sexuality being based on attraction. I started this thread to make a point. I don't believe I lost anything at all.

Oh you lost all credence when you started little games like this. If you were being fair, you would have linked this thread at least to the Homosexuality one, and not refer to people in such a fashion when starting such a thread. How manipulative of you.

What little games? The only one who are doing inmature silly little games are you, like calling someone out on I2 for no good reason really.

This thread, i would say was one of those games. Among others she seems to play with her life. As for calling you out to I2, you kind of asked for that one by implying that it makes me a troll simply to have come from there.

1. This thread is not a game, she wanted to make a point.

2. I didn't think you were a troll just because you come from I2, there are a few members here who are from there as well, I thought of that because you knew her, so my guess was that, it was because of other things as well, being a new one, and attacking, so that made me suspicious, I wasn't the only one who was suspicious about you though.

1. So why not post in the homosexuality thread
2. I didnt know her, but given she is such a postwhore when i occasionally glanced over at WP i read a few of her posts. True you were not the only suspicious one, but you happened to be an I2 member.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:38 pm

Sopho wrote:

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This thread, i would say was one of those games. Among others she seems to play with her life.

Such as?

Transgenderism, attention seeking, and so on.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:39 pm

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1. So why not post in the homosexuality thread

How would that be possible? I wanted to make a poll to see who thought what. Holy s**t, are you stupid or something? That's exactly what this thread was about. Ragtime didn't believe that most people would agree with me, I started this to see whether they would or not.
Do you need me to dumb that down a bit or do you now understand what it is I'm saying?

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12 Aug 2007, 7:40 pm

Hadron wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Hadron wrote:

This thread, i would say was one of those games. Among others she seems to play with her life.

Such as?

Transgenderism, attention seeking, and so on.

How is being transgendered a game?
I'm not attention-seeking. And I certainly don't do it in real life, I haven't left the house for weeks except to go to the doctor.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:41 pm

greenblue wrote:

Yeah, like catholic priests and nuns, they are not straight at all because they choose to have a lifestyle without sex?

Or Jesus, according to the redacted version of
the story.

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12 Aug 2007, 7:43 pm

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Sopho wrote:

If you wanted him sexually, it would at least make you bi. And there's no "denial" phase; I am what I want to be -- I don't live in a class system.

But that's just it - I wouldn't have wanted him sexually, I have never been sexually attracted to a man in my life.

You wouldn't voluntarily screw a man if you didn't want him sexually, at least enough to get wet and open. The fact you'd even be there to do him shows you have some actual interest in going through with the entire physical act, versus just thinking things over to yourself, or aloud to friends. Having sex isn't an "oh well" action for most women.

Logically, you're not going to be able to be in denial about a 100% repulsion / 0% attraction, unless you're insane.

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And there is a denial phase for a lot of people. Maybe you've never been in denial, but that's because you're straight.

That idea is a self-deception. You can't not know what you feel. You CAN however, not know what you're GOING TO FEEL. But in the moment, you're aware of present feelings. (Hint: That's why they're called "feelings", because you "feel" them.)

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