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27 May 2023, 12:51 pm

^^ Transphobia in action. :roll:



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27 May 2023, 12:53 pm

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Hitler made no secret about his thoughts on Jews especially throughout his career.


Many transphobes consistently make their thoughts on transpeople known, even on this website.

They try to insist their murders are all just random, that any discrimination they face isn't real and that they deserve to be denied treatments.


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27 May 2023, 12:56 pm

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gee whiz, if you still don't see it then there's no helping you.


I genuinely see it. Rest assured of that.

I honestly don't mind trans people in the slightest. I speak to one regular as clockwork every Saturday, I just dislike people hurling the transphobia slur around (in general, not here yet at least) for acting on concerns outside the scope of simply being "trans"

Sports banning is biological, hormone drugs on kids is medical and welfare, certain pronouns might be grammatical. To be transphobic there needs to be a hatred of trans people, not a secondary concern, like grammar or medical where I think people start to erroneously draw connections to transphobia.



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27 May 2023, 12:58 pm

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^^ Transphobia in action. :roll:


Personal attack in action.

Transphobia is hatred of trans people for being trans. Most issues with trans people today is everything but the fact they're trans.



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27 May 2023, 12:59 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
Hitler made no secret about his thoughts on Jews especially throughout his career.


Many transphobes consistently make their thoughts on transpeople known, even on this website.

They try to insist their murders are all just random, that any discrimination they face isn't real and that they deserve to be denied treatments.


There needs to be evidence linking the motives to hatred of them being trans, obviously

If someone shot me there would need to be evidence linking it to hatred of me being an autistic for it to be a bigoted attack.

Secondly, this thread is implying seriously systematic hatred of them which isn't what's going on.



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27 May 2023, 1:01 pm

Nades wrote:
Readydaer wrote:
gee whiz, if you still don't see it then there's no helping you.


I genuinely see it. Rest assured of that.

I honestly don't mind trans people in the slightest. I speak to one regular as clockwork every Saturday, I just dislike people hurling the transphobia slur around (in general, not here yet at least) for acting on concerns outside the scope of simply being "trans"

Sports banning is biological, hormone drugs on kids is medical and welfare, certain pronouns might be grammatical. To be transphobic there needs to be a hatred of trans people, not a secondary concern, like grammar or medical where I think people start to erroneously draw connections to transphobia.


Nades used PRETZEL LOGIC.

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27 May 2023, 1:02 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
Hitler made no secret about his thoughts on Jews especially throughout his career.


Many transphobes consistently make their thoughts on transpeople known, even on this website.

They try to insist their murders are all just random, that any discrimination they face isn't real and that they deserve to be denied treatments.

And they try to claim that they don't hate trans people because they speak to one at work. It's like racists who claim to be friends with one person of color.

They don't "hate" them; they just dislike everything that has to do with being trans and don't believe in accommodating them in any way. :roll:



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27 May 2023, 1:03 pm

Nades wrote:
Readydaer wrote:
gee whiz, if you still don't see it then there's no helping you.


I genuinely see it. Rest assured of that.

I honestly don't mind trans people in the slightest. I speak to one regular as clockwork every Saturday, I just dislike people hurling the transphobia slur around (in general, not here yet at least) for acting on concerns outside the scope of simply being "trans"

Sports banning is biological, hormone drugs on kids is medical and welfare, certain pronouns might be grammatical. To be transphobic there needs to be a hatred of trans people, not a secondary concern, like grammar or medical where I think people start to erroneously draw connections to transphobia.


it becomes transphobic because none of these things have been a problem until trans people are involved.

sports banning- very strong cis women with naturally high testosterone are A-OK to compete. trans women with the same levels? No way!

hormone drugs: cis women with naturally low estrogen that could affect their health? sure, they can have hormones! no problem! trans women want estrogen? Woah there sis, let's have a psychological screening and a 2-year waiting list first.

grammatical errors: "I just spoke to the doctor." "Oh, what'd they say?"

Problems are created to marginalize undesirable groups.


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27 May 2023, 1:04 pm

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There needs to be evidence linking the motives to hatred of them being trans, obviously


If you can't prove it was then it definitely wasn't is terrible logic, but it's clear you're not interested in logic, you're interested in gaslighting.


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27 May 2023, 1:04 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
Hitler made no secret about his thoughts on Jews especially throughout his career.


Many transphobes consistently make their thoughts on transpeople known, even on this website.

They try to insist their murders are all just random, that any discrimination they face isn't real and that they deserve to be denied treatments.

And they try to claim that they don't hate trans people because they speak to one at work.

They don't "hate" them; they just dislike everything that has to do with being trans and don't believe in accommodating them in any way. :roll:


I don't like the thought of giving hormone drugs to kids or letting male to female trans people compete against women. That's pretty much all my gripes.

If you believe in this, why not get into a boxing match with a male to female trans boxer?.....or wil lyou get cold feet?



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27 May 2023, 1:05 pm

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If you believe in this, why not get into a boxing match with a male to female trans boxer?.....or wil lyou get cold feet?


Does she even box bro? :lol:


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27 May 2023, 1:06 pm

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Nades wrote:
There needs to be evidence linking the motives to hatred of them being trans, obviously


If you can't prove it was then it definitely wasn't is terrible logic, but it's clear you're not interested in logic, you're interested in gaslighting.


That's actually how the law works.



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27 May 2023, 1:08 pm

Readydaer wrote:
Nades wrote:
Readydaer wrote:
gee whiz, if you still don't see it then there's no helping you.


I genuinely see it. Rest assured of that.

I honestly don't mind trans people in the slightest. I speak to one regular as clockwork every Saturday, I just dislike people hurling the transphobia slur around (in general, not here yet at least) for acting on concerns outside the scope of simply being "trans"

Sports banning is biological, hormone drugs on kids is medical and welfare, certain pronouns might be grammatical. To be transphobic there needs to be a hatred of trans people, not a secondary concern, like grammar or medical where I think people start to erroneously draw connections to transphobia.


it becomes transphobic because none of these things have been a problem until trans people are involved.

sports banning- very strong cis women with naturally high testosterone are A-OK to compete. trans women with the same levels? No way!

hormone drugs: cis women with naturally low estrogen that could affect their health? sure, they can have hormones! no problem! trans women want estrogen? Woah there sis, let's have a psychological screening and a 2-year waiting list first.

grammatical errors: "I just spoke to the doctor." "Oh, what'd they say?"

Problems are created to marginalize undesirable groups.


Trans people have a advantage in sports. They need to compete in their own group. More and more sports bodies are banning for a reason and it's about time. Going from 400th in men's to 1st in female swimming for example......yeah that's a problem.



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27 May 2023, 1:08 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
Hitler made no secret about his thoughts on Jews especially throughout his career.


Many transphobes consistently make their thoughts on transpeople known, even on this website.

They try to insist their murders are all just random, that any discrimination they face isn't real and that they deserve to be denied treatments.

And they try to claim that they don't hate trans people because they speak to one at work. It's like racists who claim to be friends with one person of color.

They don't "hate" them; they just dislike everything that has to do with being trans and don't believe in accommodating them in any way. :roll:


More personal attacks I see.



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27 May 2023, 1:09 pm

Nades wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
Hitler made no secret about his thoughts on Jews especially throughout his career.


Many transphobes consistently make their thoughts on transpeople known, even on this website.

They try to insist their murders are all just random, that any discrimination they face isn't real and that they deserve to be denied treatments.

And they try to claim that they don't hate trans people because they speak to one at work.

They don't "hate" them; they just dislike everything that has to do with being trans and don't believe in accommodating them in any way. :roll:


I don't like the thought of giving hormone drugs to kids or letting male to female trans people compete against women. That's pretty much all my gripes.

If you believe in this, why not get into a boxing match with a male to female trans boxer?.....or wil lyou get cold feet?

Why would I want to take up boxing? I don't like violent sports.



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27 May 2023, 1:09 pm

Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
There needs to be evidence linking the motives to hatred of them being trans, obviously


If you can't prove it was then it definitely wasn't is terrible logic, but it's clear you're not interested in logic, you're interested in gaslighting.


That's actually how the law works.


We're not trying people here so it's irrelevant how the law works.

You're trying to convince us the hoofbeats aren't horses. :lol:


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