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08 Aug 2023, 3:53 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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Is there something significant about the number 12?


Actually yes. Before the Biblical Hebrews arithmetic (along with middle eastern civilization itself) was invented by the Sumerians and Babylonians in Mesopotomia. Their number system was based upon counting in ten groups of six...lumps of sixty. Unlike our purely ten based system which goes ten-100-1000. They invented the 360 degrees in a circle and 24 hours in a day.


But they also had a system of sacred numbers based on seven rather than six. So...two times six is 12, and two times seven is 14. That makes 13 out of step with both counting systems. So thats how 13 became an unlucky number. Judas was the 13th disciple of Christ...and he messed things up. And the same thing crops up in the mythology of Pagan Europe ...twelve of the Nordic gods of Valhalla had a big feast at Asguard, and Loki showed up as the 13th guest....and all heck broke loose.


Does that mean when the wrote the Gospels they based they based the number of disciples on having a significant number (or an unlucky number if you could Judas) rather than the amount he actually had?
Could be. His life story was a spoken folklore for a few decades before it was written down ...so somewhere a long the line of telling and retelling -of the likely hundred or two of followers he had in his lifetime the figure for his most important might have gotten edited to the mystical number of 12.



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08 Aug 2023, 5:22 pm

ON the other hand...

some might argue that ANY number can be made to appear to have special significance.


https://youtu.be/LsCiaxPhtVY