Are fossils of legged snakes evidence of the Bible?

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06 Sep 2023, 12:23 pm

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The reason for this difference of opinion is that Genesis in the Bible is really two different stories imperfectly spliced together that contradict each other.

Genesis One tells one tale...God makes animals first, then makes both man and woman at the same time out of dust, and then tells the couple to "be fruitful and multiply and replenish the Earth".

Genesis two and three is a whole different story. God makes man first, then makes the animals, and THEN pulls a rib out of Adam...and fashions Eve. And the explains how he is keeping them in this here garden -from all these other trees, but dont touch this here tree...

So in chapter one god commands the couple to get it on and breed from the get go.
But in the tale told in two and three its a whole different ball game, and they dont start making babies until after this forbidden fruit fiasco.

So go figure. Take your pick.

The second story doesn't specifiy that they weren't having sex before the Fall, but, yes, there are quite a few inconsistencies in terms of the order of creation. These are among the many contradictions that have inspired the Documentary hypothesis, which is almost universally accepted by Bible scholars other than those who believe that the Bible (or the Torah) is the literal exact Word of God.


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06 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

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I don't understand why some fundamentalist isn't already touting your idea that they've found Eden.

Eden is described, in the Bible, as having a river flowing through it that splits into four rivers, two of which are the Tigris and Euphrates.

No such river exists. The headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates are in what is now southeastern Turkey. They originate close together, but not as a single river.

Some fundamentalists say that the geography of the region, including the locations of the headwaters of various rivers, was rearranged by the Flood. Hence, they say, it is impossible to know where Eden was.


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06 Sep 2023, 4:39 pm

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I never heard of the idea that there were more than 2 people prior to the apple event. AFAIK scripture doesn't say there were or there weren't, though I haven't read it all. It rather reminds me of the 2 stories of Judas, which Augustine reconciled by assuming an important detail not confirmed nor refuted in the text, though your idea doesn't seem quite such a crooked fit as that one does.

I don't understand why some fundamentalist isn't already touting your idea that they've found Eden. There were supposed to be angels on guard to keep people out. Scripture doesn't say they weren't later redeployed elsewhere though.

Yeah. Tetrapodophis is a recently found eight inch 95 million year old fossil snake...that had all four feet. He was found in northeastern Brazil. So....the Garden of Eden must have been in that spot in northeastern Brazil. :)



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06 Sep 2023, 4:55 pm

What does the bible say about rocket propelled snakes like the Sidewinder?


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06 Sep 2023, 5:00 pm

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What does the bible say about rocket propelled snakes like the Sidewinder?

It’s, sadly, silent on the matter.


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06 Sep 2023, 8:00 pm

But the Bible DOES clearly state that the serpent was "the hippest creature in the Garden".

Well..it doesnt quite put it that way, but thats what it says!


https://youtu.be/TKFH_zh4gY0


https://youtu.be/Lm-L9uMxzQA



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07 Sep 2023, 2:11 am

"The wisest, and craftiest, creature in the Garden".

Here is a more modern recording in which you can hear the lyrics better. :)

https://youtu.be/oN_GJFm9Ibs

But they are all great versions of the song.



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07 Sep 2023, 1:25 pm

Not only did the snake not crawl around on his belly, but he could talk which is how he got Eve and Adam to eat the fruit.



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16 Sep 2023, 6:47 am

Sonic200 wrote:
Not only did the snake not crawl around on his belly, but he could talk which is how he got Eve and Adam to eat the fruit.

That IS even harder to explain than the legs, if you're a Biblical literalist, how a snake could "talk".