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11 Oct 2023, 2:19 pm

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This abortion ban is VERY STUPID. Why is this happening? Why girls & women are forced to have babies? I read a 10 year old girl got pregnant cuz of rape, one doctor gave her an abortion, that doctor got a fine, I didn’t read everything. There are alot of women that have mental illness, if she get pregnant & don’t want the baby, she have to be force to give birth, what happens if she kills the baby, I read about that. The world is Pretty Scary now. What happened to freedom? Before there were abortion bans, Alyssa Milano was one of them that keep posting on her Instagram page about it.

it is happening because people vote for republicans. it wouldn't be happening otherwise.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why people would want to vote republican.


Because they see their idyllic, 1950s mentality as slipping away.

They want everything to be as it was back then, as if on an episode of Leave it to Beaver or Father Knows Best, even though it was a fantasy.


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11 Oct 2023, 2:55 pm

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I have heard of coat hanger abortions, but what is a pennyroyal abortion? I have never heard of that one.


Pennyroyal is an herb that causes miscarriage.


Oh, okay. :|



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11 Oct 2023, 3:08 pm

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I have heard of coat hanger abortions, but what is a pennyroyal abortion? I have never heard of that one.


Pennyroyal is an herb that causes miscarriage.


Silver wormwood (Artemisia ludoviciana) is another one. Also, be careful talking about this stuff, a lot of states make it a full-on felony to intentionally induce a miscarriage.



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11 Oct 2023, 4:48 pm

Barchan wrote:
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I have heard of coat hanger abortions, but what is a pennyroyal abortion? I have never heard of that one.


Pennyroyal is an herb that causes miscarriage.


Silver wormwood (Artemisia ludoviciana) is another one. Also, be careful talking about this stuff, a lot of states make it a full-on felony to intentionally induce a miscarriage.


They're welcome to try to extradite me.

Anyone who's researched herbal abortifacients with the intention of using them should probably be aware of how much concealment their actions will require.


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11 Oct 2023, 7:33 pm

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Anyone who's researched herbal abortifacients with the intention of using them should probably be aware of how much concealment their actions will require.
I recommend downloading such books as  The Encyclopedia of Herbs and Herbalism , and using the "Find" function of your PDF reader to locate specific herbs for specific effects.



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11 Oct 2023, 11:46 pm

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Because they see their idyllic, 1950s mentality as slipping away.

They want everything to be as it was back then, as if on an episode of Leave it to Beaver or Father Knows Best, even though it was a fantasy.

They want a return to 1950's social norms.

But they don't want a return to 1950's tax policies, which I think would actually be an excellent idea. The Republican Party has long been, first and foremost, the party for rich people who don't want to pay taxes on their wealth.


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21 Oct 2023, 3:22 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Because they see their idyllic, 1950s mentality as slipping away.

They want everything to be as it was back then, as if on an episode of Leave it to Beaver or Father Knows Best, even though it was a fantasy.

They want a return to 1950's social norms.

But they don't want a return to 1950's tax policies, which I think would actually be an excellent idea. The Republican Party has long been, first and foremost, the party for rich people who don't want to pay taxes on their wealth.


We need to convince people that 1950s America was as bad, or worse, than 1930s-40s Germany.


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22 Oct 2023, 4:29 pm

I think it's good that Roe vs Wade was overturned. It should be up to God who's to be born. If people don't like children, they can use protection while shagging. If people don't like people with disabilities, they can use protection while shagging. Every life is precious and every life is worth living. The world needs more LiFE breathed into it. A larger population leads to a larger economy because people are consumers and that brings money into the economy. Every baby that's conceived is a Sweet Pea.


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23 Oct 2023, 11:40 am

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I think it's good that Roe vs Wade was overturned. It should be up to God who's to be born. If people don't like children, they can use protection while shagging. If people don't like people with disabilities, they can use protection while shagging. Every life is precious and every life is worth living. The world needs more LiFE breathed into it. A larger population leads to a larger economy because people are consumers and that brings money into the economy. Every baby that's conceived is a Sweet Pea.

Not sure if this is satire, but no, women's rights should not under any circumstances be "up to God."



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23 Oct 2023, 11:50 am

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I think it's good that Roe vs Wade was overturned. It should be up to God who's to be born. If people don't like children, they can use protection while shagging. If people don't like people with disabilities, they can use protection while shagging. Every life is precious and every life is worth living. The world needs more LiFE breathed into it. A larger population leads to a larger economy because people are consumers and that brings money into the economy. Every baby that's conceived is a Sweet Pea.

Not sure if this is satire, but no, women's rights should not under any circumstances be "up to God."

It's not satire. It is their opinion.

Mine differs. I believe people should have the right to choose and that there are many circumstances where abortion may be the right choice for someone, and possibly the unborn, too. Medical reasons for mother/child, drug addiction reasons, alcoholism reasons, even financial/poverty reasons, education or career reasons for one's life plan etc, or a mother simply knowing they're not cut out to raise a child nor birth one etc.

And if we want to drag God into the argument.. since God created everything, God also gave us abortions and the ability to choose, so why would we deny God's gift of medical science and choice by banning it? Seems blasphemous.


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23 Oct 2023, 11:52 am

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We need to convince people that 1950s America was as bad, or worse, than 1930s-40s Germany.

Teach people that WWII was really just a war between the imperialists of the New World (the Allies) and the imperialists of the Old World (the Axis). It was not a war to end fascism but merely a changing of the guard.



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23 Oct 2023, 11:53 am

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Barchan wrote:
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I think it's good that Roe vs Wade was overturned. It should be up to God who's to be born. If people don't like children, they can use protection while shagging. If people don't like people with disabilities, they can use protection while shagging. Every life is precious and every life is worth living. The world needs more LiFE breathed into it. A larger population leads to a larger economy because people are consumers and that brings money into the economy. Every baby that's conceived is a Sweet Pea.

Not sure if this is satire, but no, women's rights should not under any circumstances be "up to God."

It's not satire. It is their opinion.

Mine differs. I believe people should have the right to choose and that there are many circumstances where abortion may be the right choice for someone, and possibly the unborn, too. Medical reasons for mother/child, drug addiction reasons, alcoholism reasons, even financial/poverty reasons, education or career reasons for one's life plan etc, or a mother simply knowing they're not cut out to raise a child nor birth one etc.

And if we want to drag God into the argument.. since God created everything, God also gave us abortions and the ability to choose, so why would we deny God's gift of medical science and choice by banning it? Seems blasphemous.

God's not real and America is not a theocracy. I don't give a f**k what anyone's religious beliefs are until they try to make it my problem.



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23 Oct 2023, 12:03 pm

In the Old Testament, God sometimes advocates violence towards pregnant women (Hosea 13:16). He kills a lot of babies, too (1 Samuel 15:3). I don’t think he’s real, but if he was, I don’t think he’d care about abortion that much.



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23 Oct 2023, 12:05 pm

I don’t believe in any of the Americanized Christian bs, using God as an excuse for everything & everyone you want to hate.

But it’s hard to ignore signs of a higher power, intelligent design etc. Plus countless stories of people’s’ psychedelic influenced interactions with The Source/gods/angels/entities etc, especially utilizing The Spirit Molecule. (DMT) Also, the biggest men of science I personally know, Medical Doctors and a Naturopathic Doctor, are Also the most religious.. because at the limits of observable scientific explanation for our existence comes faith in how we came to be and evolved. Something like that.

I’m not religious, but I’m certainly spiritual. I don’t care what name or names people give to “God,” or “The Creator,” but I do believe in its existence and role in the universe. (Even if it turns out to be a hologram project super computer. :D )


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23 Oct 2023, 12:40 pm

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They can use protection while shagging.


Ever heard of sexual assault?


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23 Oct 2023, 12:54 pm

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They can use protection while shagging.


Ever heard of sexual assault?

America has politicans who unironically believe that "true rape" can't result in pregnancy and if she's pregnant then it's a gift from God and she should be a good loyal victim tradwife to her rapist husband. This isn't some kooky fringe cult, these are mainstream religious views in that country.