Socialism and Relationships

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I prefer a mixed economy with restricted capitalism but greater social welfare. Communism and Socialism are good for society but are not so good for the economy because of the greater supply and demand. Capitalism has been regarded as good for the economy but not good for society because corporations and individuals often seek to profit for their own interests rather than the interests of the general populace (war profit, bribery, corruption, milking).

There are winners and losers in this game. Once everyone wins, no one will. Those who break their pact with MAROF with the intention of doing evil will be guaranteed to lose. After all, no one likes sexual abuse and domestic violence so it is a good thing that MAROF will have its own security network of forestalls around the country that will ensure law and order is needed in order for humans to have a healthy relationship.

Though it cannot be guaranteed to achieve perfection, a good and happy memory is what a man and a woman need in order to believe in themselves and move upwards the motivational hierarchy.

Breeding is universal among all people regardless of culture, religion, race, and ethnicity. I as a Croatian Yugoslav, can have a family with a Serbian wife. We can tolerate our values of culture and religion but we are humans so we should not barricade ourselves from others who have different skin color or practice a different set of cultural and religious beliefs.

Speaking of this. From your point of view, you believe that this "natural selection" thing justifies racism, sexism, and general prejudice against others because it's "natural". Sure I was born and have my own bit of human nature but I was not born to be a bigot. Bigotry is not "natural" even if it still persists. We are evolving but we are evolving to become smart and hopefully stop a global catastrophe caused by us HUMANS! Oh, what did you say? We can't because it's "natural" for us to be evil...

Please elaborate on your "human nature".

Man will eventually create a system that replaces the laws of nature. I don't mean to change now. Just saying that reliance on God or an invisible hand or theory of human nature is not necessary, although they are still at work now.

A 400-year-old internal combustion engine, created by technicians and workers, has defeated a 6,000-year-old or even longer horse. People should have the confidence to replace old things in every field.

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I don't believe in the idea of being a happy man from having sex. To have sex, you truly have to feel it. Men who claim that "sex makes joy" are often misogynist and actually don't even want sex. Elliot Rodger, an infamous person who has claimed the lives of several people claimed that he wanted sex but no woman gave it to him and so he began despising women and created the idea that sex should be abolished and children should be made by artificial intelligence.

The definition of an incel is "involuntary celibate", a person who desires sex but is denied pleasure. The incel community is often composed of white heterosexual males who complain about not having sex and blaming women for their loneliness which is ABSURD! As an autistic man, I do not believe in giving any mercy or hope for the incels because they don't ask for sex but just want women to be erased from this planet, therefore they deserve to be lonely for their toxicity and genuine desire to commit terrorism on innocent people.

But keep in mind that though the majority of incels are men, there are also female incels (femcels) who have the same mindset but instead blame men for all of their problems because they didn't have sex and want to erase men. The femcel issue has recently been on the rise with tens of thousands of women proclaiming themselves as "incels" in 2020. TikTok in 2022 reported that over 250 million views contained hashtags such as #femcel, #femcelcore, and #femcelrights.

In conclusion, MAROF is not an incel's dream. MAROF works as a system to bring opportunities for marriages, relationships, and friendships for those who couldn't do it for themselves because of toxic standards set by society. MAROF will deal with incels appropriately by simply arresting anyone who speaks against others because they "couldn't get laid" and MAROF reserves the right to infiltrate incel groups and liquidate them because these people are simply banding up to establish a miserable system that will deprive EVERYONE of their marriages, relationships, and friendships just because these "outcasts" didn't get a chance.

A comparison of the proposed MAROF system with other systems.

And so MAROF will one day put a stop to the insidious patriarchies and matriarchies and establish a free and happy society where men and women are content with their marriages, relationships, and friendships.

Proposed logo for MAROF.

Special statement: I support everything that is progressive. I support 60% of MAROF, and I also admit that there are problems with it in the poster's description. I attribute it to the poster's insufficient theoretical level. Reform is good, but the specific system must be viewed dialectically.

Here is a link to the article from the Left Voice website regarding family, love, and relationships.

Link -> https://www.leftvoice.org/love-and-socialism/

I found a paragraph regarding Engels' thought on the family.

This is then followed by a critique on the function of the family under capitalism and how it encourages competition and how it degrades women with unpaid labor.



And finally, the paragraph about the Bolsheviks' view on the family and love. There is also Trotsky talking about the family and love.



In my perspective, the "abolishment of family" meant that they were seeking to eradicate the shut-in, private families that only tended to earn for their gains rather than the true collective benefit. MAROF as a system is meant to encourage comradeship and love but also a reminder that this "free love" is for the collective good and that people must work together and help one another.

MAROF is meritocratic since it is to be run by people with expertise in human relationships. MAROF rewards those who take good care of their friends, partners, families, and spouses while it punishes those who are entitled to abuse their loved ones whether physically or sexually. This is because MAROF must be a fair system as well because to get free love, one must prove oneself capable of a healthy relationship. MAROF will assist the lonely individuals who feel isolated from society via special therapy programs and set them basic goals such as building self-confidence which is the first step towards a healthy relationship with others.

And when it comes to MAROF, they are serious. MAROF will reward the lonely men and women who accomplish their primary objective of building self-confidence. Their reward will be that they will be eligible for social interactions and establishing relationships. With that, comes the second step, and finally, the third step which is to pursue a healthy and a responsible family that will mostly rely on their own children but they will also rely on contributing to the community as a whole (as a type of repayment without harsh and unjust labor) by introducing the children to the significance of friendships and relationships.

All of this is to ensure that the working class maintains productivity and achieves a level of self-management by being content that they have support from others and their families.

What makes you think that people would accept or want such a system to replace their own free will to let the chips fall where they may?

So there’s some room for negotiation here: Name the parts of the system that you think don’t embody free will.
A good system benefits everyone, and only the former oppressors will oppose it.
State your concerns: Worried about someone losing his sex slave?
It solves many problems that arise in nuclear families based on economic ties: domestic violence, abortion, bullying, and of course,It's obviously too rough, I hope you can correct it

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There are those who can't find love and friends because they have been shunned by others. The lonely people want to be recognized and MAROF will offer them a free and fair system. Free will doesn't mean, ousting an autistic individual just because they have a social impairment caused by their mental disability. Also, you had the nerves to call an autistic person an "incel" which for me feels like you are supportive of a caste system whose eugenics have been practiced by most notably the Nazis and yet you dare accuse me of "eugenics" when it is you who has an issue with people who do not have the same "neurotypical" mindset that matches yours.

Please do tell me, what do you want in your life to be content with and I'm sure I can tolerate it and let you be unless you wish nothing but harm.

Some government weenie being given a month to observe me in a new friendship/relationship to determine fitness of the relationship yada yada.. lol F that; I can determine for myself in moments if I'm interested in befriending someone or having a sexual relationship with them. Government weenies can F off with their weird forced socializing, observations, determinations etc etc. None of it sounds like free will or anything remotely resembling a natural relationship.

It also doesn't sound too far off from dating websites like eharmony, which I Also think is a bit weird. At least with those people decide themselves if they want to be a part of that system and they opt in and pay for it if they want to try letting someone else pick a date or partner for them and see how that works out. No f*****g way would some forced national system be something I'd want any part of. Even IF I remain as single as I've been my whole life; forcing someone else to give me a month's opportunity this and that blah blah blah is just weird. I'd rather be single than have some government weenie pair me up with someone else and try to force a relationship to happen. Much more satisfying being single on my own terms than in a fake relationship someone settled for because some weenie told them to.

You will certainly have the free will since these relationships will not be "forced" but instead "encouraged". You will still have the will to decide if it YOU who wants it because I understand that the state may not always be on the right but at the same time, YOUR will is valued by MAROF and they will do their best to find you a high match not just for a romantic relationship but in general to let you have someone to talk to.

You can be alone but there must be an acceptable and suitable level of your loneliness because "hermiting" is not the lifestyle that MAROF would approve of. You can be single and still have friends with like-minded interests. What I am saying is that MAROF does not force people to love another but instead praises them for showing faith and kindness to others in friendships, relationships, and marriages. Also, MAROF will and must make sure that these relationships lead to high levels of motivation and productivity so that the community as a whole can prosper under correct guidance.