Why do Europeans seem to hate Christianity?

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Techstepgener8tion: The bully analogy isn't quite true when it comes down to Bin Laden and Al-Quaeda attacking America, going by what you said about picking on the big guy, it would have been pointless to begin with. Obviously, they thought 'we'll get a bite here and there', and because you reacted to it, they thought 'gotcha, now let's reel them in.'
I'm talking about the Cole and the first WTC bombing here; if you guys had done it differently, say sent in CIA or undercover squads to wherever Bin Laden was, the catastrophe on 11 Sept 01 may not have happened. By going about it the way you did, meant they won afterall. And it looks like they are still winning, because they've not only got you running here, there and everywhere scared that something will happen, the Europeans and Aussies were drawn into it too. Most muslims probably wouldn't have cared, would have had that same insular thinking; it's the rabid fundamentalists that did the damage, and the rest of us got sucked in big time. See, terrorists don't fight the same way armies and military groups do; small attacks here and there, the odd car-bomb or suicide bomber making a raid is how they get the job done. So the only way to fight them is on their terms, which is by stealth. I personally think war is a waste of time anyway, a more peaceful solution all round would have been better.

techstepgenr8tion, I would say that (from my perspective) you talk like a frightened American who has lost touch with reality, like what you think about the world is based upon Fox News (or sim).

From outside of America the world looks completely the opposite ... it looks like America is the terrorist, America is the aggressor, America is unable to back down or understand any action that doesn't involve outright killing of other people, that America has never tried to play it 'purely defensive' but in fact aggresses into every country it can militarily/economically/and politically damaging the lives of a great many millions of people - for it's own benefit.

The reason you act alone is because your population has limited access to factual information, and a very homogenised media. Add to this an unquestioning blind patriotism and twisted faith, then you have a country acting extremely violently and the rest of the world watching - and thinking what is wrong with these people ?

It is not the case that we are cowards of afraid or don't understand. We watch the American population like they are in a goldfishbowl with tv screens all around playing Fox News, and unabled to see anything beyond.

It is quite strange, but luckily it is only in 1 country.

Personally I have visited the US about 20 times, east/west ... when I was young and really liked it. But ... it's different now; somehow America has become a violent and dangerous land, with a population that -like I said- is misinformed.

This conversation is a bit like the ones I have with Ragtime about the existence of God - he has spent too much time with a single idea injected into his mind, now there is nothing else.

I'm quoting this as close to what I think it is; maybe you could help with the true analogy.

To me, Ragtime's attitude on Christianity, (or anything) is like a riddle inside a conundrum trapped in an enigma.

Something like that.....

If you think we're all mindless drones drooling as we watch Fox News, you are very ignorant of what goes on in this nation. At least I don't condemn an entire country because its leader is a complete lunatic... or wait, Osama Bin Laden...? Anyway, some Americans are very dumb, especially in rural areas, but there are plenty of Americans that aren't provincial. I've been to England and France; my mom lived in both of them for a year (Brighton, in fact, rideforever, perhaps you're a nephew of my mother's classmates), my dad's been all over the world, and while many Americans are stuck-up bastards who refuse to learn a language, I learned French and ordered food and such in French. You can't lump every American into one category. Although I do admit we could use some more international news.

Nationalism and military worship here in the US do annoy me. It's really irritating that these people will accuse you of "hating your country" if you don't care for that stuff. It's also annoying how they glorify "fighting for our freedom" when so many of them are backwards religious conservatives who are actually against freedom in many areas. It seems the fighting is more important than the freedom itself. IMO the founders of America wrote the Bill of Rights and came up with our political system so we could avoid having to "fight for our freedom" all the time.

It was a stupid question, I should have phrased it differently. When I went to Europe it didn't seem that way, I just get paranoid and affix my negative feelings to one obsession, albeit stupid or not.

LOL at the uninformed stereotyping in this thread.

Everyone in Europe hates christianity? Really? Mostly we just ignore it, or it gets sidelined in favour of more esoteric religions, or certain agressive middle eastern philosophies. From a british point of view, it seems that more people are actually supporting christianity these days, given the sh***y deal it gets in comparison to other groups. (Thats supporting, not signing up.)

We even have a whole country RUN by it. (Vatican City.)

As for some of the other uninformed gobbets:

America invented everything? Pardon my french, but Did They F*ck.

Light bulbs, Electricity, Steam engines, the Telephone, Radar, the combustion engine (though an arab might have got there first on that one.) the tractor, successful flight (as opposed to theoretical), the computer.. I could carry on for a while, but these are all european.

Americas Army is No1! ..

War of Independence - Loyalist British vs Traitor British. No americans involved
War of 1812 - Whitehouse burned....
Civil War - No score draw
WW1 - Turned up 4 years late
WW2 - Turned up 3 years late
Korea - Lose
Vietnam - Lose
Persian Gulf Distraction 1 and 2 - Looks like a win, turns into Vietnam
Afghanistan - See above

So, not "all that" then. Having huge manpower, unlimited ammunition, and geographical isolation from most agressors DOES NOT equal "Elite Undefeatable ten foot tall desert warriors who s**t bullets." The ability to fight and win battles in the face of huge odds, with poor supply, or other impediments.. IS.

I will accept evidence of units engaging in proper combat of a tactical nature on roughly equal footing with other allies however.