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14 Feb 2024, 4:45 am

No, not every ideology goes to the extreme of advocating for mass murder. Yours does and that's the red light. If nationalism does, it's the same red light, by the way.

Who exactly is "Yugoslavia"?
A particular politician?
You?
Your neighbour?
The professor from your uni?
The old lady from the vegetable stall?
The old lady from a vegetable stall in a town far away?

Who is the one to make decisions?


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14 Feb 2024, 11:54 am

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No, not every ideology goes to the extreme of advocating for mass murder. Yours does and that's the red light. If nationalism does, it's the same red light, by the way.

Who exactly is "Yugoslavia"?
A particular politician?
You?
Your neighbour?
The professor from your uni?
The old lady from the vegetable stall?
The old lady from a vegetable stall in a town far away?

Who is the one to make decisions?


The quest for the reunification of Yugoslavia will begin once I begin partaking in politics. Someone has to be the "He" or "She" who pursues for the great Yugoslavia. I will hopefully one day be the "He" once I set outside and go into politics.


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14 Feb 2024, 12:15 pm

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
magz wrote:
No, not every ideology goes to the extreme of advocating for mass murder. Yours does and that's the red light. If nationalism does, it's the same red light, by the way.

Who exactly is "Yugoslavia"?
A particular politician?
You?
Your neighbour?
The professor from your uni?
The old lady from the vegetable stall?
The old lady from a vegetable stall in a town far away?

Who is the one to make decisions?


The quest for the reunification of Yugoslavia will begin once I begin partaking in politics. Someone has to be the "He" or "She" who pursues for the great Yugoslavia. I will hopefully one day be the "He" once I set outside and go into politics.


Good luck buddy lmao


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14 Feb 2024, 12:17 pm

Good luck with that quest.

Just dont get TOO Stalinistic when you come to power....please! Lol!



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14 Feb 2024, 12:36 pm

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
magz wrote:
No, not every ideology goes to the extreme of advocating for mass murder. Yours does and that's the red light. If nationalism does, it's the same red light, by the way.

Who exactly is "Yugoslavia"?
A particular politician?
You?
Your neighbour?
The professor from your uni?
The old lady from the vegetable stall?
The old lady from a vegetable stall in a town far away?

Who is the one to make decisions?


The quest for the reunification of Yugoslavia will begin once I begin partaking in politics. Someone has to be the "He" or "She" who pursues for the great Yugoslavia. I will hopefully one day be the "He" once I set outside and go into politics.


dude, Croats won't forget Vukovar, Bosniaks won't forget Srebrenica and Serbs won't forget Jasenovac. aka that train has left the station long ago.


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14 Feb 2024, 1:22 pm

Everyone here is too gentle. Maybe I should pick a good time to talk about my childish far-left ideas.


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14 Feb 2024, 3:04 pm

You are aware that being a likely autistic, you'll be in the demographic of people amongst the most likely to suffer persecution under your ideal "utopia" right?

It was simple in the former soviet union or indeed any authoritarian communist state, you work hard or you suffered.

The irony is, that the ones who can make capitalism work very well for themselves are still going to be relatively powerful even in a communist state. I hardly see the likes of Elon Musk or Bill Gates suddenly being relegated to the rank of factory worker in a communist nation. Even the ones making a mere double average salary in a capitalist state will still suffer less relative poverty compared to a typical autistic.



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14 Feb 2024, 3:05 pm

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
magz wrote:
No, not every ideology goes to the extreme of advocating for mass murder. Yours does and that's the red light. If nationalism does, it's the same red light, by the way.

Who exactly is "Yugoslavia"?
A particular politician?
You?
Your neighbour?
The professor from your uni?
The old lady from the vegetable stall?
The old lady from a vegetable stall in a town far away?

Who is the one to make decisions?


The quest for the reunification of Yugoslavia will begin once I begin partaking in politics. Someone has to be the "He" or "She" who pursues for the great Yugoslavia. I will hopefully one day be the "He" once I set outside and go into politics.


Previous life accomplishments for you to be taken seriously as a politician?



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14 Feb 2024, 7:45 pm

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Everyone here is too gentle. Maybe I should pick a good time to talk about my childish far-left ideas.


Giv'r.


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14 Feb 2024, 11:35 pm

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dude, Croats won't forget Vukovar, Bosniaks won't forget Srebrenica and Serbs won't forget Jasenovac. aka that train has left the station long ago.


None of these were caused by the communists. Vukovar and Srebrenica were caused by the Chetniks under Milosevic and Jasenovac was caused by Ustashas under NDH led by Ante Pavelic.


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14 Feb 2024, 11:36 pm

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You are aware that being a likely autistic, you'll be in the demographic of people amongst the most likely to suffer persecution under your ideal "utopia" right?


Not unless I retain the generous welfare state where they can categorize ND people and NT people. ND's will get restricted labor while ND's get normal labor and both will yield production and get what they need for their basic lives in return.


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14 Feb 2024, 11:43 pm

Nades wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
magz wrote:
No, not every ideology goes to the extreme of advocating for mass murder. Yours does and that's the red light. If nationalism does, it's the same red light, by the way.

Who exactly is "Yugoslavia"?
A particular politician?
You?
Your neighbour?
The professor from your uni?
The old lady from the vegetable stall?
The old lady from a vegetable stall in a town far away?

Who is the one to make decisions?


The quest for the reunification of Yugoslavia will begin once I begin partaking in politics. Someone has to be the "He" or "She" who pursues for the great Yugoslavia. I will hopefully one day be the "He" once I set outside and go into politics.


Previous life accomplishments for you to be taken seriously as a politician?


1. Creation of a new variant of Marxism-Leninism called Neo-Titoism (or also named after my last name).

2. Developing a mixed microeconomic-welfare system called MAROF (Ministry of Marriages, Romantic Relationships, and Friendships) which would primarily serve as a free dating service under state control and also offer to counsel, track records of human relationships, and encourage healthy relationships, as well as having its own special law enforcement called "Forestallers" which are called upon to maintain peace and harmony in the working class when it comes to human relationships.

Now there are more life accomplishments to be made before I can truly delve into politics for I can only share my great works to someone who can pick them up but hopefully, I will one day begin seriously considering some level of influence over society in Bosnia.


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14 Feb 2024, 11:53 pm

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Good luck with that quest.

Just dont get TOO Stalinistic when you come to power....please! Lol!


Won't. I promise! :D


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15 Feb 2024, 2:36 am

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
Nades wrote:
You are aware that being a likely autistic, you'll be in the demographic of people amongst the most likely to suffer persecution under your ideal "utopia" right?


Not unless I retain the generous welfare state where they can categorize ND people and NT people. ND's will get restricted labor while ND's get normal labor and both will yield production and get what they need for their basic lives in return.


So basically, the NT's who are broadly speaking more capable and powerful than ND's will see they get less pay for more work........and you think one group won't begin to resent the other group?

You seem like an idealist with very little experience of actual working people.



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15 Feb 2024, 2:41 am

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
Nades wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
magz wrote:
No, not every ideology goes to the extreme of advocating for mass murder. Yours does and that's the red light. If nationalism does, it's the same red light, by the way.

Who exactly is "Yugoslavia"?
A particular politician?
You?
Your neighbour?
The professor from your uni?
The old lady from the vegetable stall?
The old lady from a vegetable stall in a town far away?

Who is the one to make decisions?


The quest for the reunification of Yugoslavia will begin once I begin partaking in politics. Someone has to be the "He" or "She" who pursues for the great Yugoslavia. I will hopefully one day be the "He" once I set outside and go into politics.


Previous life accomplishments for you to be taken seriously as a politician?


1. Creation of a new variant of Marxism-Leninism called Neo-Titoism (or also named after my last name).

2. Developing a mixed microeconomic-welfare system called MAROF (Ministry of Marriages, Romantic Relationships, and Friendships) which would primarily serve as a free dating service under state control and also offer to counsel, track records of human relationships, and encourage healthy relationships, as well as having its own special law enforcement called "Forestallers" which are called upon to maintain peace and harmony in the working class when it comes to human relationships.

Now there are more life accomplishments to be made before I can truly delve into politics for I can only share my great works to someone who can pick them up but hopefully, I will one day begin seriously considering some level of influence over society in Bosnia.


This is honestly the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Why not the Ministry of Magic to go with it? Only one step away from pure fiction.

How is your "ministry" even economic when it appears more like an arranged marriage and free shag scheme? Brothels have been around for a long time, those are a better option for venting urges as they pop up.



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15 Feb 2024, 3:51 am

He's been pitching this MAROF idea in other threads.  It involves the State-issue of girlfriends and wives to losers who cannot get them on their own.

I agree that it is among the most stupid of Ideas I have ever encountered.