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Does the Bible present a flat earth? Think carefully...
Yes, but I haven't read it 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Yes and I have read it 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
No, but I haven't read it 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
No and I have read it 67%  67%  [ 8 ]
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28 Aug 2007, 1:29 pm

Interesting.


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28 Aug 2007, 1:32 pm

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Interesting.

What is?



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28 Aug 2007, 1:37 pm

This thread, and about the claiming that Bible shows that the earth was round, interesting considering how the writers knowledge was back then, and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.


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28 Aug 2007, 1:47 pm

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This thread, and about the claiming that Bible shows that the earth was round, interesting considering how the writers knowledge was back then, and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Its very intresting. Are you going to read his links? ;)



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28 Aug 2007, 1:56 pm

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... and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Such as?


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28 Aug 2007, 1:56 pm

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This thread, and about the claiming that Bible shows that the earth was round, interesting considering how the writers knowledge was back then, and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Its very intresting. Are you going to read his links? ;)

Yes, I think I will and I should, it would be fair. I'm also curious about a scientifically adapted explanation about the creation in Genesis, that must be in one of the links right, or was that on another thread?


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28 Aug 2007, 2:06 pm

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... and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Such as?

My former church, they are conservatives, not fundamentalists though, well I don't think so, they were and they are still today against homosexuality, I was surprised one day googling on the web and I found a few adventists churches that accept gay people and their sexuality, that was surprising, but in a good way. But not all churches are like that, just a very few.


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28 Aug 2007, 2:08 pm

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This thread, and about the claiming that Bible shows that the earth was round, interesting considering how the writers knowledge was back then, and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Its very intresting. Are you going to read his links? ;)

Yes, I think I will and I should, it would be fair. I'm also curious about a scientifically adapted explanation about the creation in Genesis, that must be in one of the links right, or was that on another thread?

All of them? It would take about a year.



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28 Aug 2007, 2:16 pm

Not all, but some, to see what are their views and stuff about the earth being flat or not, maybe I will convert, who knows?


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28 Aug 2007, 2:21 pm

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Not all, but some, to see what are their views and stuff about the earth being flat or not, maybe I will convert, who knows?

I doubt any of it will persuade you, but go ahead. What a glanced at seemed very propagandarist in nature.



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28 Aug 2007, 2:31 pm

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This thread, and about the claiming that Bible shows that the earth was round, interesting considering how the writers knowledge was back then, and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.


it's dumb cause even if it's not addressed (why would it be, since they didn't really have any ideas why it wouldn't be flat) "christianity" most certainly persecuted people for supporting a round earth (hello, gallileo execution [sp]) theory... so that doesn't seem to support the idea that they agreed with it.

what's the difference?

i love how any bad connotations to the bible are wiped away cause they're never explicitly said (and therefore not true)....

yet, people so easily attribute good connotations to the biblical interpretations ESPECIALLY when it's never explicitly said...

bible is what it is... was written by PEOPLE who didn't know anything of nature so it's pointless to argue whether or not the bible elicitly says whether the world is flat or not... just because they didnt say it was flat, doesnt give any sort of evidence that they believed it was round... and whatever god said (and whatever he chose to withhold)... i sincerely doubt the bible or any historical religious texts represent an accurate portrayl. too many hands involved.


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28 Aug 2007, 3:10 pm

greenblue wrote:
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... and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Such as?

My former church, they are conservatives, not fundamentalists though, well I don't think so, they were and they are still today against homosexuality, I was surprised one day googling on the web and I found a few adventists churches that accept gay people and their sexuality, that was surprising, but in a good way. But not all churches are like that, just a very few.

That's an entirely different thing. Apples and oranges. One is a recognition of scientific principles, the other is a societal question.


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28 Aug 2007, 3:44 pm

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greenblue wrote:
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... and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Such as?

My former church, they are conservatives, not fundamentalists though, well I don't think so, they were and they are still today against homosexuality, I was surprised one day googling on the web and I found a few adventists churches that accept gay people and their sexuality, that was surprising, but in a good way. But not all churches are like that, just a very few.

That's an entirely different thing. Apples and oranges. One is a recognition of scientific principles, the other is a societal question.

It's not that different as you think, allowing gay marriage in society and gay relationships should be based on scientific studies not on dogmas written thousands of years ago.


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28 Aug 2007, 3:59 pm

greenblue wrote:
JonnyBGoode wrote:
greenblue wrote:
JonnyBGoode wrote:
greenblue wrote:
... and if they support that idea, how come they don't have different modern views about other things.

Such as?

My former church, they are conservatives, not fundamentalists though, well I don't think so, they were and they are still today against homosexuality, I was surprised one day googling on the web and I found a few adventists churches that accept gay people and their sexuality, that was surprising, but in a good way. But not all churches are like that, just a very few.

That's an entirely different thing. Apples and oranges. One is a recognition of scientific principles, the other is a societal question.

It's not that different as you think, allowing gay marriage in society and gay relationships should be based on scientific studies not on dogmas written thousands of years ago.


So, "Who cares what God thinks?", right?

The difference between your views and ours is that we believe reality is God-centered, whereas you believe reality is human-centered. We believe we should listen and cater to God's preferences for how things should be done, since "of Him, and through Him, and to Him are all things" (Romans 11:36), and that, therefore, reality is God-centered. But you believe that we should center our attentions on human preferences, and that doing so will yield balance and universal satisfaction in the world, since, in your view, reality is human-centered.

Therefore, views on such matters as homosexuality are a matter of which authority one believes in: God's, or man's. Therefore, the only way for us to approve of things the Bible calls sins is to reject God. Through the Bible -- Old Testament and New -- it is stated that God's ways our not our ways (the ways of the world), and that the two ways will, and do always, conflict. Therefore, we each have to choose between the two. The Bible is clear that the world will not be reconciled to God. It's spinning off into its own destruction. We, therefore, have to decide: Do we like the little, uncomfortable lifeboat better? Or do we like the nice, big, sinking ship better?


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28 Aug 2007, 4:08 pm

I forgot to add this:

It seems to me that it is easier for most to acommodate certain interpretations of the Bible to science today, such as the earth being round, but not changing the interpretation about homosexuals to acommodate to science. Some do, but still most don't, and that is what I find interesting, most people like that first one, but not the second one.


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28 Aug 2007, 4:22 pm

I still fail to see what "accomodating homosexuality" has to do with science.


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