Conservative rappers

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The status quo today is obviously different from the 1960s where these cultural subverters eventually became the establishment that they opposed in that time.

To be "countercultural" today technically is being conservative by default.

How exactly is worshipping capitalism, Christianity, the military, and the police "counterculture"? Those things are still the status quo, at least in the US.

Yeah rap is counterculture. Young men go through a "phase" so they might like rap/metal in college but as they get married and/or enter the corporate or professional world they are like metaphorical chameleons and change their music taste.

To be fair, that's very much intentional in the case of the Tory Rap. The Tory party in the UK, the Conservatives, are stereotyped as being awkward and out of touch from the average people.

It's a joke song making fun of the idea of the Conservatives trying (and failing) to connect with the public. They were losing popularity in the last election and Labour ended up winning. I think the song being so bad makes it work because it really captures the stiffness and insincere tone that the Tories are known for here.

Edit: Although, it wasn't quite as simple as people voting in Labour. A considerable chunk who would have voted for the Tories voted for the Reform party which divided the vote and led to a Labour lead.

I can't really understand Reform's game plan recently. Personally, I thought they were aiming for a younger demographic but then Nigel Farage took a stance to lower the minimum wage for young workers. So, that seems counterproductive. That's something for another thread though.

Yeahhhhh...

Here in the US, many conservatives genuinely are awkward and out of touch vs the average populace, and unironically make stiff and forced music thinking it's helping them "connect" with people.

It doesn't - and they never seem to really understand why...

We can now add Nicki Minaj to the list after years of support to the LGBTQ community and she was caught tweeting a meme of Trump and Vance that read ... " the good guys" and "hero's". Screw her now.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1PE2T4

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I think a lot of black celebrities lately have felt pressured to support Trump, because the right constantly hammers them with messages that the left is anti-white, and they don't want to be viewed that way. Somehow the left is also anti-black according to the narrative, because they're "treating black people like victims" by giving poor black people welfare money they need to survive, rather than "empowering them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps". It's complete mental gymnastics taken to absurd levels, but Americans, especially minorities are constantly blasted with these messages that the left is both anti-white and anti-black. And of course all of this is 100% intentional. Part of the problem is the right is a lot more effective at getting their message across than the left because the left has to rely on grassroots funding whereas the right has a giant coalition of billionaires and powerful think tanks funding their propaganda campaigns.

The idea is that blacks and all minorities are only being used cynically by the left-wing for political reasons and that the left in fact is racist especially in that they see racial categories of people and once again, believe that black people need to be infantilized and dependent on welfare. I think there are racist people on both sides and isn't inherently a right-wing conservative thing.


I don't agree. Guess which side controls 99% of mass media? It's not the right or conservatives.
Tell me the ways it isn't.

So are we infantilizing Jews by sending money to Israel? Is sending aid to Israel antisemitic?

Also, find me a mainstream media outlet that's advocating for socialist policies - not "woke" stuff like vaccines, but actual socialist policies. Find me a mainstream media outlet that says capitalism is evil and that things like health care need to be completely deprivatized. You won't find that on CNN, MSNBC, or any of those so-called "leftist" outlets, because even if they side with Democrats during elections, they're all pro-capitalism.

Also, I challenge you to find me a left-wing think tank or lobbying group that's equivalent in power, influence, and dark money funding to something like the Heritage Foundation. Closest I can think of is maybe Justice Democrats, and that's still a very far cry.

Absolutely disgraceful!! !

It seems like lately the Democrat Party has more prominent billionaires than the Republicans. Pretty much all the celebrities are Democrats.

The vast majority of billionaire families in the US are primarily right-leaning. Also, what party is constantly engaging in bootlicking for billionaire CEOs and saying that taxing them is a violation of their human rights? It's not the Democrats.

I stand corrected. I guess it was just my impression that most of the big name billionaires are democrats. I was thinking of people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. I guess it came partly from the Republicans becoming more of a working class party. However most of the media leans Democratic. Also most universities are democratic so i would say the Democrats have more cultural influence than the Republicans but thats just me.

Educated people tend to vote Democrat. Educated people also tend to work white-collar jobs and have higher incomes. Blue-collar workers who form the bulk of the working class tend to vote Republican because they're not educated. Education is the main thing that separates liberals from conservatives, not income. People who actually understand how the world works tend not to vote for a party whose primary agenda is harming people they don't like.

Oh, did we ever get any actual examples of "conservative rap about loving trump and hating immigrants" or can we declare its all just made up?

Pastor Sean Moon would likely meet this description. I know he loves Trump but I dont know about the other part.