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OddballBen
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01 Oct 2007, 8:42 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:

Christianity (as well as most of the other biblical monotheist religions) has that "we're the only true path and everyone else is wrong" mindset. That is a very ignorant, bigoted and offensive thing to think. That is why there is so much violence commited in the world by monotheists.

Different religions conflict with each other. I don't see how they can all be correct simultaneously.

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Pigs are some of the tastiest creatures there are... if they had demons in em i surely would have tasted it by now...unless demons are tasty too and thats what makes pigs taste so good....

The demons were only sent to those specific pigs mentioned in that Bible passage, not ALL pigs... but they are quite tasty.

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01 Oct 2007, 10:16 pm

OddballBen wrote:

history_of_psychiatry wrote:

Different religions conflict with each other. I don't see how they can all be correct simultaneously.

Maybe a deity/deities don't play favourites and actually judge people by the content of their character and not who they chose to worship or if they even chose to worship?

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01 Oct 2007, 10:56 pm

Macbeth wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Mc_Jeff wrote:

WHY CHRISTIANITY IS WRONG!

*nothing happens*

WHY ISLAM IS WRONG!

*McJeff gets banned again*

we don't take kindly to lobbyists for the zionists 'round 'ere.

Criticizing Islam is a bannable offence here? Thats disturbing in its own right. But just so you know, its quite possible to be against the precepts of Islam, and NOT be a Zionist supporter.

just so you know, i was joking around....hence the slang that i never use (i rarely use punctuation for slang rather less 'ere in place of here)...so yeah...

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02 Oct 2007, 12:42 am

Flagg wrote:

Maybe a deity/deities don't play favourites and actually judge people by the content of their character and not who they chose to worship or if they even chose to worship?

But even that can lead to questions on what is truly virtuous. To call one man virtuous is either to call another man less virtuous or to state something completely meaningless. That in itself is a theology that contradicts other theologies.

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02 Oct 2007, 5:22 am

Flagg wrote:

OddballBen wrote:

history_of_psychiatry wrote:

Different religions conflict with each other. I don't see how they can all be correct simultaneously.

Maybe a deity/deities don't play favourites and actually judge people by the content of their character and not who they chose to worship or if they even chose to worship?

I always favoured the idea that one day Jesus is actually going to show up, and boy is he going to start kicking ass. That or the fact that ALL organised religions are wrong, and the correct one is actually The Pious Brotherhood of the Everlasting Yak, which consists of two men in a hut up a mountain in Cambodia.. and a yak.
It would be great, just to see the look on some peoples faces.

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02 Oct 2007, 12:09 pm

If Jesus ever returned there is no doubt he would very quickly end up on another cross or in the booby hatch where all those other guys are who claim to be Jesus.

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02 Oct 2007, 1:35 pm

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If Jesus ever returned there is no doubt he would very quickly end up on another cross or in the booby hatch where all those other guys are who claim to be Jesus.

We're going to end up in a lot of trouble if any of those guys actually ARE.

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02 Oct 2007, 6:00 pm

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Back in old day pig were unhealthy food to eat, in comparison with others. If junk food existeded in gods days, that would be also band too.

That is actually a lie propagated by religious apologists. A more interesting explanation of the pigo-phobia of most religions is the fact that pig flesh is remarkably similar to human flesh in sense of texture, taste and fat content. The whole disease or whatever argument has been debunked numerous times; Kosher laws and their muslim/christian analogues have no basis in fact or medical evidence.

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02 Oct 2007, 9:51 pm

Unfortunately I have given up meat so I cannot test your theory. But, considering the economic and moral state of the word it is likely that McDonald's might end up serving its customers to each other.

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02 Oct 2007, 10:11 pm

Sand wrote:

Not likely, it would probably be bad business given how difficult it is to get good human meat.

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02 Oct 2007, 10:29 pm

calandale wrote:

gwenevyn wrote:

calandale wrote:

Aspie_Chav wrote:

Back in old day pig were unhealthy food to eat, in comparison with others. .

Read Marvin Harris' "Cannibals and Kings" for a more
likely rationale as to why pigs are a taboo in the Middle
East, yet nowhere else.

Or you could just tell us, since we probably won't...

Well, the whole argument is
pretty complex, but it really boiled
down to deforestation. The eco-system
in the near east (mid east to those who
have bought in to newer ways) was very
fragile (as shown by the fact that it WAS
destroyed eventually). Pigs would have
wrecked it. Pigs are VERY good converters
of vegetable mass to proteins, and most
societies embraced them. Pretty much all
of the taboos and religious practices can be
traced to such arguments. Cannibalism tends
to happen where meat supplies are weak, for
example.

I didn't know about that, would that have been before or around the time the Torah or Pentateuch were written? As it seems that's the basis for eating pigs being a taboo in islam and I suppose judaism as well. I have to say that is the same thing in my former church, meaning there are a few christian sects that prohibit eating pork as well.

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03 Oct 2007, 8:58 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Sand wrote:

Not likely, it would probably be bad business given how difficult it is to get good human meat.

Reminds me of the old urban myth that a certain fast food establishment was serving burgers made from worm meat. The cold, calculating, and economically driven reply was: Why would we do that? It costs more to buy than real meat.

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03 Oct 2007, 9:44 am

greenblue wrote:

http://www.museum.upenn.edu/Canaan/Climate&Fauna.html

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human intervention had led to plant domestication and by 5,000 years ago, deforestation was well underway.

http://www.museum.upenn.edu/Canaan/Animals.html

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Pigs were rare in the Iron Age. Beginning at the end of the Middle Bronze Age, the raising of pigs declined steadily. Pigs were costly to feed and do not provide milk, hair or wool. The avoidance of pork probably was already a widespread cultural pattern before the dietary prohibition of Leviticus 11:7 in the Old Testament.

As well as, arch survey, which
gives a fairly in depth discussion of some archaeological evidence,
at one site. There's a lot more, and some contention about the
issue though.

As to dates, the Pentateuch is seen as a bit more recent
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-he ... 07178.html

Couldn't find a good source for the date of the Torah,
but I hope that you have some better information on these
subjects than I do. Goes a bit further back than my own
study of this particular religion (I tended to look more
at pre-dynastic egyptian religion).

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06 Oct 2007, 5:12 pm

There is nothing wrong with Christianity, although I would beg to differ on certain interpretations of it...

As long as you read the Bible knowing how long ago it was written, the various languages through which it has been translated, and the potential it has encountered for manipulation, as well as the possibility of certain pieces of the text being figurative, then you should be fine. Just don't throw out any sort of scientific knowledge you have because your preacher doesn't like Evolutionary Theory...

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