Are you worried about Political Correctness?

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Yes! It's eroding freedom of speech! 58%  58%  [ 38 ]
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08 Dec 2007, 4:27 pm

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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
see how long it takes for the person your talking to to turn around and start talking to someone else, my guess is about 5 or 10 seconds.

you mean people don't do that to you anyways?


Yeah, it just takes being real quick to the point and knowing what will be relevant enough not to get that response.



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08 Dec 2007, 7:52 pm

I hate the excessive political correctness today. But there should be a degree of respect for unfortunate, disabled, and generally different people. You can't choose your race, sexuality, or genes. Humouring such groups is fine so long as it's done lightly, and not as an attack. However, banning something because it might be offensive or controversial to some minority unintentionally, is just absurd.
As for religion, I'm rather unconcerned. Religion is a CHOICE, and although major religions should be subject to respect as a matter of goodwill, they are not immune to criticism and humour. PC nuts these days just look to ban anything which remotely represents British culture or could be remotely linked with offending some minority, or is linked to violence/sexuality/nationalism/British culture/free thought.

The health and safety brigade is also just as, if not more annoying. Bans anything which has even a small degree of risk or "danger", anything which might just result in a freak accident. School boating trips, playing with conkers, playground games, any outdoors fun, it should be outlawed, in their warped view.


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09 Dec 2007, 4:32 am

I take opportunities to speak my opinions on politics where I can. So, I am probably not considered politically correct. :P



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09 Dec 2007, 6:17 am

Political correctness has gone too far when Santa gets into trouble for saying "ho, ho, ho" because some woman "might" think she is getting insulted, and when Christmas parties are called "holiday parties" and when disabled people are called "differently abled" and so on and so on... all this PC crap is getting on my nerves.


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09 Dec 2007, 10:03 am

I agree that it can go too far. But what is all this about HATING PC terms? I think it's a step in the right direction. At this point, biases and generalizations seem to be more of a problem; I absolutely hate it when people make generalizations. And although it's true that the PC terms keep changing (a little too often?), I try to keep up with them.

That being said, some terms (like Pandora said, "holiday parties" instead of "Christmas parties," etc.) are clearly overkill...



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09 Dec 2007, 11:04 am

Pandora wrote:
Political correctness has gone too far when Santa gets into trouble for saying "ho, ho, ho" because some woman "might" think she is getting insulted


That's REALLY stupid, if a Santa does ever get harassed about that one I'd hope he had the guts to say "No, not you - your mom...and your dad, and your sister".

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and when Christmas parties are called "holiday parties" and when disabled people are called "differently abled" and so on and so on... all this PC crap is getting on my nerves.


Sadly Christians do little or nothing to stick up for themselves, it would seem rather arbitrary if a Jew said Happy Hanuka or a Muslim said Happy Ramadan, I think that's the side we forget about, but saying it to other Christians - I really don't think people should care if anyone gets offended by that, they need a life. Disability with "differently abled", that's just annoying, I don't even know why people say that - disabled is disabled, stop trying to call it something that its not.



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09 Dec 2007, 1:44 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

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Sadly Christians do little or nothing to stick up for themselves, it would seem rather arbitrary if a Jew said Happy Hanuka or a Muslim said Happy Ramadan, I think that's the side we forget about, but saying it to other Christians - I really don't think people should care if anyone gets offended by that, they need a life.


At work, I go around wishing many of my co-workers Merry Christmas, and its all good. And I wish my Jewish co-workers a Happy Hanukah, and that's all good too. When The Company has a party, should it show favoritism and call it a Christmas Party because a majority of the workers are Christian, or should it be inclusive and call it a Holiday Party? I think business sense favors a holiday party - why should Christians get special treatment? Why should non-Christians get their symbols excluded? Are Christians being oppressed if it is called a holiday party, and there are a few decorations that recognize another religion. If it is a full-on religious celebration, then the business shouldn't be involved - leave that to the churches. If it is a social function for the employess, then consider who the employees are, and act accordingly.

That is not political correctness - it is common courtesy.



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09 Dec 2007, 3:03 pm

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At work, I go around wishing many of my co-workers Merry Christmas, and its all good. And I wish my Jewish co-workers a Happy Hanukah, and that's all good too. When The Company has a party, should it show favoritism and call it a Christmas Party because a majority of the workers are Christian, or should it be inclusive and call it a Holiday Party? I think business sense favors a holiday party - why should Christians get special treatment? Why should non-Christians get their symbols excluded? Are Christians being oppressed if it is called a holiday party, and there are a few decorations that recognize another religion. If it is a full-on religious celebration, then the business shouldn't be involved - leave that to the churches. If it is a social function for the employess, then consider who the employees are, and act accordingly.

That is not political correctness - it is common courtesy.


Agreed.



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10 Dec 2007, 3:58 pm

The main problem with PC is that it doesn't actually does what it's supposed to do. It leads to euphemism treadmills (euphemisms gaining the same offensive connotations as the word they replaced, leading to a new euphemism) and just suppresses bigotry via Orwellian tactics, drives it underground, and breeds reactionary resentment and gives minorities free rides via the politics of victimhood instead of actually confronting the actual causes of bigotry and/or illiberal beliefs head on.


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10 Dec 2007, 7:06 pm

That and it demonizes white males for something our forefethers did over 200 yrs ago that we of today's generation have no control over.



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10 Dec 2007, 7:12 pm

PC is inverted bigotry, that's all it is. It's supposed to be a weapon against bigotry ie "progressive", but often it just flips the script on innocent white males. That is not progressive, that is hypocracy.
it also puts minorities on a pedestal to where if you question anything they do, or hold them to the same expectations as you would anyone else, your "racist" or "sexist". I find it less racist for race to be a non-factor honestly. PC shows theyr trying too hard to gain their approval to the point of sucking up to them (those it is supposed to represent), rather than just treating them as true equals worthy of understanding.



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10 Dec 2007, 7:13 pm

Basically, I don't see color, the only time I see gender is if I'm considering a date or a potential girlfriend or whatever.



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10 Dec 2007, 7:33 pm

It's all fecking BS anyway, because how can anything political be correct? Seriously, what's wrong with terms like cripple, spastic, manhole, black... They are WORDS for feck's sake, and WORDS CANNOT DO ANY PHYSICAL DAMAGE! Oh, and before someone says 'what about the mental anguish?' well, maybe if all these so-called PC idiots had a good long look at themselves, then they'd realise that if anyone gets upset over what is said has far deeper issues with life or whatever and maybe they should take a step back and get a reality check.

I mean, having to change Christmas because some other group gets offended. Grow up!! Changing Noddy and Enid Blyton stories because golliwogs were found to be racist. Grow the feck up!! People getting their arse kicked for voicing their opinion in whatever means and not being 'PC'. Grow up!! It's all just WORDS!!

So to sum it all up, no, I'm not worried about political correctness, because anyone who tries to bastardize the language just because of feelings needs to take a few valium and have a good lie down. Insanity at it's worst.


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10 Dec 2007, 7:53 pm

The thing is, spastic, ret*d and all, are considered insulting, and lower the self-esteem and worth of disabled people, persecutes them for that which they have no control over. That, in what I consider a modern, civilized, and educated society, is unacceptable. Using the words as strictly MEDICAL terms is ok, but they are considered as insulting by the general public, and should be used sparingly, only at the people who really deserve derogotary comments regarding their intelligence and mental competence, and have brought it upon themselves through choice and lifestyle.

Mentally disabled, physically disabled and so on are appropriate terms, and are not directly insulting, but at the same time true.

A person with no legs is physically disabled, a Down's Syndrome sufferer is mentally disabled. There are things that these people, in reality, cannot do. No matter how much you pump them up with political steroids, their condition will remain the same, and respect, dignity, and understanding is all that should be asked. Not unrealistic expectations.


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10 Dec 2007, 9:10 pm

The_Chosen_One wrote:
It's all fecking BS anyway, because how can anything political be correct? Seriously, what's wrong with terms like cripple, spastic, manhole, black... They are WORDS for feck's sake, and WORDS CANNOT DO ANY PHYSICAL DAMAGE! Oh, and before someone says 'what about the mental anguish?' well, maybe if all these so-called PC idiots had a good long look at themselves, then they'd realise that if anyone gets upset over what is said has far deeper issues with life or whatever and maybe they should take a step back and get a reality check.

I mean, having to change Christmas because some other group gets offended. Grow up!! Changing Noddy and Enid Blyton stories because golliwogs were found to be racist. Grow the feck up!! People getting their arse kicked for voicing their opinion in whatever means and not being 'PC'. Grow up!! It's all just WORDS!!

So to sum it all up, no, I'm not worried about political correctness, because anyone who tries to bastardize the language just because of feelings needs to take a few valium and have a good lie down. Insanity at it's worst.


Don't get so upset about this so-called PC stuff ... its just words!



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10 Dec 2007, 11:18 pm

Well that's the funny thing with the PC idiots, only ***certain*** minority groups are beyond question, theyr pet groups. Ethnic minorities, females, and bisexuals. But what about Jews? What about disabled people? I mean to this day the disabled are still openly scorned, degraded, stereotyped and stigmatized on a societal-wide level. That alone is a huge gulp of hypocracy.

Sure, they'll get angry about terminology sometimes when dealing with disabled people but even those people tend to treat the disabled as more of charity cases or "forever children" than as regular, normal human beings.