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11 Feb 2008, 4:02 pm

I think that's because liberals are so rabid at trying to silence them. Read some of the conservative blogs about the way liberals attempt to disrupt lectures given by conservative speakers at colleges. You've got a liberal holding a sign regarding Michelle Malkin that said "Hey Malkin, stop Talkin"... I don't see how that can be interpreted as anything other than a direct attack on free speech.

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11 Feb 2008, 4:05 pm

Somebody has been listening to too much Oxycontin Rush or has been posting at FReeper-land too much. :lol:

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11 Feb 2008, 4:08 pm

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Somebody has been listening to too much Oxycontin Rush or has been posting at FReeper-land too much. :lol:

Yet more incoherent braying from a mindless donkey.

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11 Feb 2008, 4:36 pm

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So you agree that it is more often more conservative factions that feel less free to speak their minds than they used to?
If that's the case, then why the attack on liberals, who more often respond that they do not feel less free to speak their minds than they used to?

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11 Feb 2008, 4:44 pm

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Well, in this topic, it's the liberals complaining.

The very second post in this topic was a liberal claiming that we were in a state of complete slavery. Half a dozen more liberals joined in with more of the same before Johnnie stepped in.

Then monty posted that discredited hackjob of a survey, and all the same liberals cheered him on.

And since I've been posting in this topic, I've had to spin off accusations that Americans are dumped in Guantanamo for 'speaking their mind' (never happened, ever), and ad-hominym attacks from mindlessly braying attack donkeys.

I'm socially and economically left wing, and the only reason I don't identify myself as a liberal is because liberals, excluding a very rare few, are the most disgusting, despicable people in the world. And this topic proves it.

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11 Feb 2008, 4:45 pm

And now I'm off for a while. Gotta do some school. Hopefully Johnnie will show up soon enough to take over where I left off.

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11 Feb 2008, 4:55 pm

Mc_Jeff wrote:

MrMark wrote:

Well, in this topic, it's the liberals complaining.

So you would restrict the liberal's freedom to complain because you feel they have nothing to complain about?

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11 Feb 2008, 5:26 pm

I get complained at all the time about what I should not have said. I don't care if I get threatened for being insensitive to someone. If someone gets their feelings hurt, it is their problem not mine.
No one can force me to be PC. Everyone around me knows that I refuse to be "Politically Correct" and that I will say things plainly and honestly. My bosses know to keep me away from certain clients, and that other clients like my blunt, clear way of cutting through the nonsense. My family just expects me to be me.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:22 pm

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So you would restrict the liberal's freedom to complain because you feel they have nothing to complain about?

I'm going to have to answer that question with another question.

Do you believe people have the right to state a fallacy as the truth?

Do you believe someone has the right to think that 1+1=3?

Do you believe that someone has the right to think the sun is green?

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11 Feb 2008, 8:38 pm

Mc_Jeff wrote:

MrMark wrote:

So you would restrict the liberal's freedom to complain because you feel they have nothing to complain about?

I think we all agree that these are not true. I don't think we all agree that

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They consider themselves oppressed when they're absolutely not.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:38 pm

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People should be allowed to believe that '1+1=3' and they should be allowed to say it. (I want to know who those people are.) They can also believe in and speak about 'creationism' and 'intelligent design'. They should not be allowed to force such bad math and errant biology nonsense into the public's education system. So they will propose their mumblydgook, and the mathematicians and biologists will oppose it.

But are we really speaking of facts and fallacies, or simply of differing values?

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11 Feb 2008, 8:39 pm

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Actually I say yes to all 3, and in fact, would argue that the majority of Americans do this in some form or fashion and would perhaps argue that all people really do this as I have never seen a person who at one point has not stated a fallacy as a fact. In fact, with some people it seems like that is all they are capable of doing.

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11 Feb 2008, 8:43 pm

Seems like we're all pretty stupid, Mc_Jeff. Why would you want to argue with stupid people? :wink:

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12 Feb 2008, 2:52 am

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Seems like we're all pretty stupid, Mc_Jeff. Why would you want to argue with stupid people? :wink:

Because I like to think that the things I am saying will be absorbed by the brains of those I say them to, and even if they disagree now, they may come around in a few years.

Now. I don't know of anyone that thinks 1+1=3. But I do know liberals who think they're oppressed in their day to day life. And both statements are equally factually incorrect.

However, if you all think that people have the right to believe things that are factually incorrect, then I have nothing further to say, because that is an opinion and I think people have the right to opinions.

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12 Feb 2008, 7:20 am

Mc_Jeff wrote:

MrMark wrote:

Seems like we're all pretty stupid, Mc_Jeff. Why would you want to argue with stupid people? :wink:

Because I like to think that the things I am saying will be absorbed by the brains of those I say them to, and even if they disagree now, they may come around in a few years.

That works on the arrogant presumption that your opinions and beliefs are absolutely correct. They might be to you, but they aren't to others.

On this topic, there's an article in the latest issue of NewScientist that I found particularly interesting.

Here's a link:
http://www.wearesurvivalmachines.com/st ... nce&id=140

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12 Feb 2008, 8:15 am

Some people feel oppressed in their day-to-day life. This is factually correct.

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