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"I am an agnostic; I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of. "
~ Clarence S. Darrow (1857-1938) American lawyer
"A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one."
~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) American statesman, scientist and philosopher.
"Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action."
~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe (1749-1832) German poet, novelist and dramatist.
"The greatest braggarts are usually the biggest cowards. "
~ Jean Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) Swiss political philosopher and essayist.
"It is mediocrity which makes laws and sets mantraps and spring-guns in the realm of free song, saying thus far shalt thou go and no further."
~ James Russell Lowell (1819-1891) American poet, critic and editor.
"Men are Moved by two levers only: fear and self interest."
~ Napoleon I (1769-1821) Napoleon Bonaparte. French general.
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"Lightning is but a flicker of light, punctuated on all sides by darkness." - Loki
In honor of the wealth of wit, knowledge, information and insight posted thus far:
A short saying often contains much wisdom.
- Sophocles
A quotation at the right moment is like bread to the famished.
- Talmud
I love quotations because it is a joy to find thoughts one might have, beautifully expressed with much authority by someone recognized wiser than oneself.
- Marlene Dietrich
Zen poet Ryokan (1758-1831), wrote this to his prized buddha statue, a small stone image of the bodhisattva Jizo which he used for a pillow when sleeping. The statue, known as the “Pillow Jizo,” is still preserved at a Museum dedicated to him in Japan.
Impromptu Verse
We sit face to face, and you don’t say a word
Yet your silence reveals the timeless essence of things
Open books lie strewn about the floor
And just beyond the bamboo shade
a gentle rain soaks the flowering plum
An Altogether Different Language
There was a church in Umbria, Little Portion,
Already old eight hundred years ago.
It was abandoned and in disrepair
But it was called St. Mary of the Angels
For it was known to be the haunt of angels,
Often at night the country people
Could hear them singing there.
What was it like, to listen to the angels
To hear those mountain-fresh, those simple voices
Poured out on the bare stones of Little Portion
In hymns of joy?
No one has told us.
Perhaps it needs another language
That we have still to learn,
An altogether different language.
-Anne Porter (1911)
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"A man is arrogant in proportion to his ignorance. Man's natural tendency is to egotism. Man, in his infancy of knowledge, thinks that all creation was formed for him."
- Edward George Earle Lytton Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Baron Lytton
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
King Solomon (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8)
He whose joy is within, whose pleasure
is within, and whose light is within, that
de-votee, being well established in the
Supreme, attains to absolute freedom.
- The Bhagavad Gita (500? BCE)
Let me, then, confess what I know about myself
And confess too what I do not know
Because what I know of myself
I know only because you shed light on me
And what I do not know
I shall remain ignorant about until my darkness becomes like bright noon
Before your face
I love you Lord, with no doubtful mind but with certainty
You pierced my heart with your word and I fell in love with you
But the sky and the earth too and everything in them
Are telling me that I should love you;
And since they never cease to proclaim this to everyone
Those who do not hear are left without excuse…
But what am I loving when I love you?
I do love a kind of light...
When I love my God:
A light, voice, fragrance, food and embrace for my inmost self
Where something limited to no place shines into my mind,
Where something not snatched away by passing time sings for me
Where something no breath blows away yields to me its scent
Where there is a savor undiminished by famished eating
And where I am clasped in a union from which no satiety can tear me away
This is what I love
When I love my God.
And what is this?
I put my question to the earth, and it replied, “I am not he”;
I questioned everything it held, and they confessed the same.
I questioned the sea and the great deep,
And the teeming live creatures that crawl,
And they replied;
“We are not God; seek higher.”
I questioned the gusty winds,
And every breeze with all its flying creatures…
To the sky I put my question, to sun, moon, stars,
but they denied me: "We are not the God you seek."
And to all things which stood around the portals of my flesh, I said
“Tell me of my God.
You are not he, but tell me something of him.”
Then they lifted up their mighty voices and cried,
“He made us.”
My questioning was my attentive spirit,
And their reply, their beauty.
Then toward myself I turned, and asked myself
“Who are you?”
...With my body's senses I had already sought him from earth to heaven
to the farthest place whither I could send the darting rays of my eyes;
but what lay within me was better,
and to this all those bodily messengers reported back
for it controlled and judged the replies of sky and earth
and of all the creatures dwelling in them
all those that had proclaimed, "We are not God,"
and "He made us."
My inner-self recognized them all through the service of the outer
I who was that inmost self
I, who was mind, knew them through the senses of my body;
and so I questioned the vast frame of the world
and it answered, "I am not he, but he made me."
...Human beings have the power to question
so that by understanding the things he has made
they may glimpse the unseen things of God.
- Saint Augustine, Confessions, 10.6.8
before he abandons the senses and enters the "fields and vast mansions of memory"
Translation: Maria Boulding
"...be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves like locked rooms and like books that are written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now."
-Rainer Maria Rilke, in one of my favorite books,
Letters to a Young Poet
The thing is to find a truth which is true for me, to find the idea for which I can live and die. - Kierkegaard
He who does not know how to find the road to his ideal lives more frivolously and impudently than the man without an ideal. - Nietzsche
Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. - Sartre
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[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=y9bDKLUCGZU[/youtube]
I actually knew someone who would quote people like this, as authoritative voices to back up her opinions, in her English essays, actually I gave her the boring advice to stop doing it at once, I thought it was kind of scary. But this is so hilarious

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[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=y9bDKLUCGZU[/youtube]
I actually knew someone who would quote people like this, as authoritative voices to back up her opinions, in her English essays, actually I gave her the boring advice to stop doing it at once, I thought it was kind of scary. But this is so hilarious




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History about Caesar:
3923b AM, 4633 JP, 81 BC
4059. Julius Caesar was sent by Marcus Thermus to be the praetor of Asia.
4064. When Gaius Julius Caesar captured Mitylene, he was rewarded by Marcus Thermus with the Civic Crown. {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 2. 1:39} Mitylene was demolished to the ground, when it had been the only city still in arms after Mithridates was defeated. {*Livy, l. 89. 14:113} So, by the law of war and right of conquest, this noble city was brought under the jurisdiction of the people of Rome. {*Cicero, Agrarian Law II, l. 1. c. 15. 6:413}
3929b AM, 4639 JP, 75 BC
4108. When Julius Caesar was twenty-five years old, he planned to sail to Rhodes to study under Apollonius Molon, who was the most eminent teacher of oratory at that time. While he was on his way in the winter time, the pirates captured him near the island of Pharmacussa, which was near the Asian shore, north of Miletus. These pirates were so well-equipped with ships, that they controlled the seas. When the pirates demanded twenty talents from him for his ransom, Caesar laughed at them, because they did not know how important a man he was. He promised that he would give them fifty talents. He immediately sent his companions and servants to the cities of Asia to get the money for his release. He only kept a physician and two others with him, to attend to his personal needs. He was alone with these three for thirty-eight days in a company of Cilicians who were the most savage people in the world. He behaved himself so well that he filled them with both terror and reverence. He did not remove his shoes or unclothe himself, in case this should happen to cause some extraordinary change of appearance and they would suspect him of something. He had no guard other than their watchful eyes. Whenever he went to rest, he sent someone to them to tell them to be quiet. He would play and exercise with them as if they had been in his retinue and not he a prisoner of theirs. He wrote verses and orations which he recited to them. If any of them did not admire and applaud them, he would publicly call them dull fellows, barbarians, and often in jest, would threaten to crucify them. His humour pleased them greatly and they attributed his free-spokenness to his simplicity and youth. {*Velleius Paterculus, l. 2. c. 41. 1:141} {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 4. 1:39,41} {*Plutarch, Caesar, l. 1. c. 3. 7:447} It was reported that, while he was in custody, he cried out: {*Plutarch, Crassus, l. 1. c. 7. s. 5. 3:333}
"Oh Crassus, how great a pleasure will you taste, when you hear of my captivity."
4109. The money from all the cities was brought to Caesar from Miletus. Caesar would not pay the fifty talents until he had forced the pirates to release the hostages to the cities. After this, he was put ashore. The next night, he got as large a fleet as he could quickly assemble and sailing out from the port of the Milesians, he went toward the same island where the pirates were still anchored. He forced part of their fleet to flee while he sank most of the other ships. He captured the remaining ships with their crews. He was overjoyed with the victory of the night's expedition and handed over to his company the pirates' money he had seized as his own booty. He imprisoned the pirates at Pergamum. When he had finished that, he went to Junius, the proconsul of Asia, who was in Bithynia. Junius had command of Asia and Bithynia, which had recently been established as a province. [K180] Demanding that justice be done to the captives, he had them crucified. This he had foretold the pirates while he was a prisoner, but they had thought he was just joking. {*Velleius Paterculus, l. 2. c. 41. 1:141} {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 4. 1:39,41} {*Plutarch, Crassus, l. 1. c. 7. s. 5. 3:333} Before he captured them, he had sworn that he would crucify them. He ordered that their throats be cut first and they then be fastened to the crosses. {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 74. s. 1. 1:125}
3938b AM, 4648 JP, 66 BC
4393. Farther Spain was allocated to Gaius Julius Caesar when he was a quaestor. He was ordered by the praetor to travel around the various countries and decide matters of law. When he came to Gades, he saw Alexander the Great's statue in Hercules' temple. He was grieved that he had done nothing of note by the time he was thirty-four, the age at which Alexander had conquered the world. He became greatly depressed and begged that he might be sent back to Rome so that he could attempt some noble thing at the first opportunity. He left before his time expired and went to some Italian colonies that were in rebellion. He would have stirred them to do something had not the consuls kept them under control with their legions which had been raised to go into Cilicia. {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 7,8. 1:43,45}
3939a AM, 4648 JP, 66 BC
4428. A few days before Gaius Julius Caesar assumed the office of aedile, he was suspected of involvement in a conspiracy with Marcus Crassus, the consul. Publius Sulla and Lucius Antronius were also suspected, when their term as consuls expired. They were condemned for having tried to overthrow the republic at the beginning of the year. (January 1st corresponded to October on the Julian calendar, when Cotta and Torquatus entered the consulship.) They had planned to invade the Senate and kill whomever they pleased, while Crassus was to become the dictator and Caesar would be called the master of his cavalry. The whole state would be run as they saw fit and the consulship would be restored to Sulla and Antronius. It was with reference to this that Cicero, in a letter to Axius, stated that when Caesar was consul, he settled the kingdom as he had planned to do when he was an aedile. {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 9. s. 1,2. 1:45}
3944b AM, 4654 JP, 60 BC
4613. Meanwhile, Gaius Julius Caesar came to Rome to demand the consulship. [K275] Pompey allied himself with him and promised that he would do his best to help Caesar become a consul. By so doing, Pompey hoped that the acts he had done in the provinces beyond the seas, which were opposed by so many, would finally be confirmed by Caesar when he was consul. Pompey and Crassus had been at great odds ever since they had held the consulship together. Caesar reconciled them and entered into an alliance with both of them. According to this contract, nothing would be done in the state which displeased any of the three. This conspiracy proved destructive to the city, to all the world and to themselves, also. {*Livy, l. 103. 14:127} {*Velleius Paterculus, l. 2. c. 44. 1:145,147} {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 19. s. 2. 1:57} {*Plutarch, Lucullus, l. 1. c. 42. s. 6. 2:607} {*Plutarch, Crassus, l. 1. c. 14. s. 1,2. 3:355} {*Plutarch, Pompey, l. 1. c. 47. s. 1,2. 5:237} {*Plutarch, Caesar, l. 1. c. 13. s. 2,3. 7:471,473} {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 2. (9) 3:245,247} {*Dio, l. 37. (54,55) 3:187,189}
3956a AM, 4665 JP, 49 BC
4869. Julius Caesar was made dictator. After eleven days, he and Publius Servilius Isauricus were declared consuls and so Caesar resigned his dictatorship. {*Caesar, Civil Wars, l. 3. (1,2) 2:197,199} {*Plutarch, Caesar, l. 1. c. 37. s. 1. 7:531,533} {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 7. (48) 3:317}
4870. It was from this first dictatorship of Caesar that the Macedonians of Syria began their reckoning of the time of the Caesars. (This fact was mentioned on an old marble monument. {Gruter, Inscriptions, p. 287.}) The date was the 24th of the Julian September. {Ussher, Macedonian and Asiatic Year} From that day, not only the Macedonian, but also the Roman, emperors began their indictions, or their cycle of fifteen years.
3960a AM, 4669 JP, 45 BC
5082. In the month of October Caesar, who had now conquered all, entered Rome and pardoned all who had fought against him. {*Velleius Paterculus, l. 2. c. 56. s. 1. 1:173} After he had performed the triumph for Spain, at the beginning of this month, he retired from the consulship. He instituted a new order by substituting honorary consuls. He made Quintus Fabius Maximus and Gaius Trebonius the consuls for three months. {*Dio, l. 43. (46) 4:293} {Gruter, Inscriptions, p. 298.} The former of these had been consul and had triumphed for Spain on the 3rd of the Ides of October (October 13th.) {Gruter, Inscriptions, p. 297.} Thereupon, when Chrysippus had seen the ivory towns carried before Caesar in his triumph, and then, a few days later, the wooden ones of Fabius Maximus, he said the latter were nothing more than the cases for Caesar's towns. {Quintilian, l. 6. c. 4.}
5083. Very many and great honours were decreed to Caesar by the Senate. He was declared to be the perpetual dictator and was called Imperator, or Emperor. {*Livy, l. 116. 14:145} {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 76. s. 1. 1:129} This was not in the sense in which, both before and after, the title was given to generals for any victory they had obtained in the wars. This signified the highest power and authority in the state, for it was granted to him that he alone should have soldiers and the command of the militia; {*Dio, l. 43. (44) 4:289} he alone was to take charge of the public money, and it would not be lawful for any other person to make use of either of these. All the magistrates were to be subject to him, including the magistrates of the common people. They were to swear that they would never infringe on any of his decrees. {*Dio, l. 43. (45) 4:291} {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 16. (106) 3:423} Velleius declared the time from this point to his last return to the city to have been: {*Velleius Paterculus, l. 2. c. 56. s. 3. 1:173} [K364]
"His five months of his supreme power."
3960b AM, 4670 JP, 44 BC
5090. The next day, Caesar assumed his fifth and last consulship. He made an edict that thanks should be expressed to Hyrcanus, the high priest and prince of the Jews, as well as to the country of the Jews, for their affection toward him and the people of Rome. Caesar also decreed that Hyrcanus should have the city of Jerusalem and should rebuild its walls and govern it after his own will. He also granted to the Jews that every second year there should be a reduction in their rents and that they should be free from impositions and tributes.
5091. In the same fifth consulship, in the second Julian year, the month of Quintilis was renamed July, in honour of Julius Caesar. Mark Antony, his colleague in the consulship, proposed this law, because Julius was born on the 4th of the Ides of Quintilis. (July 12th) {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 16. (106) 3:423} {*Dio, l. 44. (5) 4:317} {Censorinus, De Die Natali, l. 1. c. 9.} {Macrobius, Saturnalia, l. 1. c. 12.} Thereupon, in the following month of Sextilis, Marcus Brutus, who was the city's praetor and was to hold the games in honour of Apollo after Caesar had been murdered by him, wrote Nonis Jul., the Nones of July. Cicero wrote to his friend Atticus: {*Cicero, Atticus, l. 16. c. 1. 24:369}
"I could go on cursing all day. Could they have insulted Brutus worse than with their July?"
5091. In the same fifth consulship, in the second Julian year, the month of Quintilis was renamed July, in honour of Julius Caesar. Mark Antony, his colleague in the consulship, proposed this law, because Julius was born on the 4th of the Ides of Quintilis. (July 12th) {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 16. (106) 3:423} {*Dio, l. 44. (5) 4:317} {Censorinus, De Die Natali, l. 1. c. 9.} {Macrobius, Saturnalia, l. 1. c. 12.} Thereupon, in the following month of Sextilis, Marcus Brutus, who was the city's praetor and was to hold the games in honour of Apollo after Caesar had been murdered by him, wrote Nonis Jul., the Nones of July. Cicero wrote to his friend Atticus: {*Cicero, Atticus, l. 16. c. 1. 24:369}
"I could go on cursing all day. Could they have insulted Brutus worse than with their July?"
5103. Caesar prepared to leave the city as soon as he could without having given any thought to where he would go. However, four days before he had intended to leave, he was stabbed in the Senate. {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 16. (111) 3:431} Sixty senators and equestrians were involved in this conspiracy. {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 80. s. 4. 1:135,137} {Eutropius, l. 6. fin.} {Orosius, l. 6. c. 17.} Marcus Brutus, Gaius Trebonius and Gaius Cassius, as well as Decimus Brutus, one of Caesar's party, were the leaders in the conspiracy. {*Livy, l. 116. 14:147} Caesar had come into the Senate on the Ides of March, (March 15th) with the intention of advocating the Parthian war, but as he sat in the ivory chair, the senators stabbed him and he received twenty-three wounds. {*Livy, l. 116. 14:147} {*Florus, l. 2. c. 13. s. 94,95. 1:299} He was fifty-six years old. {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 81. s. 4. 1:139} {*Suetonius, Julius, l. 1. c. 88,89. 1:147,149} {*Plutarch, Caesar, l. 1. c. 69. s. 1. 7:605} {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 21. (149) 3:503} {*Appian, Civil Wars, l. 2. c. 16. (117) 3:445}
5104. Thus he, who had fought in fifty battles, was killed in that Senate by a number of the senators he himself had chosen. {*Pliny, l. 7. c. 25. 2:565} He was killed in Pompey's hall, in front of the statue of Pompey, and many of his own centurions witnessed this. So he fell at the hands of the noblest citizens, many of whom also had been promoted by him. None of his friends and none of his servants dared approach his body. {*Cicero, De Divinatione, l. 2. c. 9. 20:395}
Annals of the World, James Ussher.
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