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28 Mar 2008, 4:15 am

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Calenders are arbitrary in terms of the year number. Even if you have an absolute starting date (like Ussher or Julian), it means little or nothing metaphysically.


I see your point but I disagree. It's the not the date itself, but the astrological meaning of that date that matters. It's the precession of the equinoxes from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius (the water bearer). Strangely enough that supposed dude Jesus says when he leaves us to look for a man bearing a pitcher of water. (There are many other strange things in that book, hell just go to http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com )

It's the end of the last baktun of the Mayan(or Aztec? can't remember) Calendar, which signifies the end of a 25,000ish year cycle, and obviously the beginning of a new cycle.

Also, metaphysically as you said, the sheer fact that not only has most of the world known the time this was to happen, but 90% of us on Earth today know this date, and that the majority of us on Earth that know this date think something significant will happen around then, will in and of itself cause something to happen - independantly of solar\galactic energies that may or may not exist. The collective thoughts, however personified in our society (as collective consciousness, trends, etc), will cause something to happen. Just what that is, I am not certain.

I have a simple opinion. If a great and righteous person emerges to lead us into a changed world at that time, religion will be proven, independant of the idea of God. If world war or domination happens then, conspiracy theorists are right and it's all about the mind control. If nothing happens, then the human race will find something else to look forward to in this depressing materialistic world bereft of the values and great men of the days of old.



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28 Mar 2008, 6:47 am

It shall however go here and by, with notice or not, and be uneventful in most likelihood.



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28 Mar 2008, 8:43 am

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Wasn't it said that the world would end in the year two thousand?


My dad bought tons of water bottles and first-aid for that easy scheme.


I played video games that night. No supplies, just another day was 12/31/1999


I was at the beach jumping over seven waves.


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28 Mar 2008, 9:49 am

I was drinking soda, for I was not of age to drink alcoholic beverages.



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28 Mar 2008, 10:45 am

Nonsens, the world isn't ending in 2012, it is ending in the year 2034... I have a timemachine, I know things!

Seriously though, the word is supposed to have ended 8 or 9 times since the year 1900, if you were to believe everyone who said so anyway.
And when the world really is ending, aren't we getting like 3 years heads up by some nine headed monster called the beast?


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28 Mar 2008, 6:39 pm

So.....does anyone care to take bets if the world will end in 2012? I'll even be willing to bet at 500:1 odds that it won't end. If you think the world will end, then you'll be rich after it ends, easy money! Any takers?



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30 Mar 2008, 12:14 am

AndersTheAspie wrote:
Nonsens, the world isn't ending in 2012, it is ending in the year 2034... I have a timemachine, I know things!

Seriously though, the word is supposed to have ended 8 or 9 times since the year 1900, if you were to believe everyone who said so anyway.
And when the world really is ending, aren't we getting like 3 years heads up by some nine headed monster called the beast?


Hey can I borrow that time machine? I need to edit a post.


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30 Mar 2008, 12:25 am

December 21, 2012, will be the same as any other day. Nothing big is gonna change, the world isn't gonna end, etc. Why should this doomsday prophecy be any different from the previous ones made?


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30 Mar 2008, 9:32 am

First thoughts - there are lots of 1s and 2s in the date.

Seriously though, if anything it'll be a big shift in consciousness. I doubt the world will end. And anyway, what exactly does 'end' mean?


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01 Apr 2008, 2:43 pm

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And anyway, what exactly does 'end' mean?


Hehe.

The word apocalypse actually means a large shift or great change, a new beginning.

All ends beget beginnings.



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01 Apr 2008, 7:26 pm

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what are your thoughts concerning the end of history theory that's supposed to take place on December 21st, 2012?

It's got me a little concerned given that mathematicians have used fractal geometry to show the Mayan calendar from a graphical standpoint.
What? Do you mean the world is going to explode or something?



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01 Apr 2008, 8:01 pm

AndersTheAspie wrote:
And when the world really is ending, aren't we getting like 3 years heads up by some nine headed monster called the beast?


When the antichrist appears, you will know the time is at hand. You'll know he's the antichrist because he'll broker a 7 year peace deal with Israel which he'll break halfway through, setting himself up as god in the Jewish Temple and causing the sacrifices to cease.

Of course, the third temple hasn't even been started yet and likely won't be anytime soon so I don't think we have anything to worry about.

(Note that I'm just humoring you, I don't actually believe any of this)



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01 Apr 2008, 8:20 pm

I will pass gas so violently that the hydrogen from the methane will separate, and form a massive star. The star will then collapse in on it self creating a massive black hole that will suck the whole universe in, once again creating a singularity as it was before the big bang.



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01 Apr 2008, 10:14 pm

I think it will just be another day. :lol:



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27 Sep 2008, 9:13 pm

i think 2012 is real



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27 Sep 2008, 9:20 pm

The same thing that will be happening on November 18th, 2038.