skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Seems strange how Islam is faring with how people defend it here.
i don't defend islam. i defend innocent people against what's basically out and out racism against muslims on this board.
But... there are so many
valid reasons to initially distrust Muslims from (both from recent history, like 9/11, and from the regularly-occurring brutal Islamic terrorism that stretches back through the centuries), that "out and out racism" doesn't even become a factor.
People are too occupied with their rightful 9/11-heightened self-preservation instincts -- and too concerned with being blown up for being the "infidel" -- to even consider whether or not they
like or
dislike Muslims. First, Muslims need to stop killing obviously-innocent people,
then verbal, civilized discussion can occur.
Besides, Islam isn't a race, so "racism" cannot apply to it. I know many formerly-Muslim Arab Christians (Joseph Farah, Ergun Caner, Walid Shoebat, Brigitte Gabriel, etc), and they're quite outspoken against Islam, and the brutally violent tools which it employs toward professed goal of world domination. Islam is a chosen set of beliefs. An Arab is not necessarily a Muslim, and vice versa. Those choosing not to share the beliefs of Islam aren't "racist", they're intellectually disagreeing. (This is as opposed to disagreeing through the use of a suicide-homicide bombs strapped to children by their own parents, or by attempting to crash four airplanes packed with innocent American citizens into populated American landmarks.)
Oh, darn, ska! I wrote all of the above before I read the below. Guess I proved you wrong about me before I even read your false accusation below!

skafather84 wrote:
the assumption that muslims are always the bad guys and are always terrorists. like the way ragtime handled my initial comment in the maimed thread and then my response when i presented sources. he simply dismissed it as liberal lies because in his mind, there is no such thing as an innocent muslim...especially not an innocent palestinian. and that's pre-judgement based on race and religion.
Regarding the bolded text, Palestinians are neither a religion nor a race. That's two strikes; what's your third guess?
If you now guess "political group devoted to the destruction of Israel", DING DING DING DING DING! YOU'RE A WINNER!! !
Accuracy is your friend, ska.
The "Palestinians" were formed in 1967 with the openly-expressed purpose of killing all the Jews in Israel.
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