22 May 2008, 12:20 am
Ragtime wrote:
...the guy just cries out for it! 
His unique combination of jaw-dropping ignorance of U.S. history and economics, boundless pomposity, and presidential aspirations is just something to naturally be made fun of again and again in any country with a sense of humor.
So, here we go! All aboard the Gaffe Express.....
-- Last May, he claimed that tornadoes in Kansas killed a whopping 10,000 people: "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." The actual death toll: 12.
Not only that, but he's too dumb to realize that 10,000 people CANNOT be killed by tornados! Tornados are far too localized to kill that many people in one place at one time.
-- Earlier this month in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States: "Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go."
-- Last week, in front of a roaring Sioux Falls, S.D., audience, Obama exulted: "Thank you, Sioux City. ... I said it wrong. I've been in Iowa for too long. I'm sorry."
-- Explaining last week why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle." On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?
-- Obama has as much trouble with numbers as he has with maps. Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Ala., he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement:
"There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born."
Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. His spokesman, Bill Burton, later explained that Obama was "speaking metaphorically about the civil rights movement as a whole."
His unique combination of jaw-dropping ignorance of U.S. history and economics, boundless pomposity, and presidential aspirations is just something to naturally be made fun of again and again in any country with a sense of humor.
So, here we go! All aboard the Gaffe Express.....
-- Last May, he claimed that tornadoes in Kansas killed a whopping 10,000 people: "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." The actual death toll: 12.
Not only that, but he's too dumb to realize that 10,000 people CANNOT be killed by tornados! Tornados are far too localized to kill that many people in one place at one time.
-- Earlier this month in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States: "Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go."
-- Last week, in front of a roaring Sioux Falls, S.D., audience, Obama exulted: "Thank you, Sioux City. ... I said it wrong. I've been in Iowa for too long. I'm sorry."
-- Explaining last week why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle." On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?
-- Obama has as much trouble with numbers as he has with maps. Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Ala., he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement:
"There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born."
Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. His spokesman, Bill Burton, later explained that Obama was "speaking metaphorically about the civil rights movement as a whole."
Geography-wise, you have to understand that this guy grew up in Hawaii. Do YOU know where Hawaii is? Did you know that ithe state is composed of a number of islands (some inhabited and most not), and that they are the most geographically isolated inhabited islands in the world? Although Hawaii is technically a US state, culturally it is not. Education is different here too. Civil rights? Hawaii is the most ethnographically diverse state in the US. Civil rights are a non-issue.
22 May 2008, 12:27 am
22 May 2008, 2:13 am
Odin wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
AspE wrote:
No one can be worse than the moron we have now
Oh, it's a bad mistake to think like that!
Wait 2 years. Then tell me Bush was worse.
Anyone is better then Bush. Even a half-ways sane Republican like McCain is better then Bush.
sane?
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22 May 2008, 7:41 am
22 May 2008, 8:18 am
srriv345 wrote:
It is the height of pedantry to suggest that Kentucky and Arkansas aren't really that together. In terms of demographics, including where the population is concentrated, Kentucky is much more comprable to Arkansas than to Ohio.
Alright, srriv345, let me give you Obama's quote again.
Obama: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle."
Is his meaning still unclear to you? "Nearby" means "nearby".
If it's such a minor point, why do you dispute it when it's so utterly clear?
I don't even care about that point anymore --
rather, what's become so curious is that you can't admit that Obama said what he said.
Is it just sheer will to believe he didn't misspeak?
This is truly fascinating to witness, how you can not see that "nearby" means "nearby"!
Just how much effort are you and certain others going to take in order to parse
Obama's inaccurate statements into accurate ones??
Orwell wrote:
twoshots wrote:
These are generally pretty insignificant, but the words were "a nearby state of Arkansas". It is not my impression that that phrasing corresponds to a metaphorical usage...
Yes, so he made a poor choice of words. Arkansas and Kentucky are very similar states, Illinois and Kentucky are not. There's plenty enough about Obama to criticize without going after petty nonsense like this.
Indeed there is, but why not include it as well? Any man openly campaigning to become
President of the United States deserves all the public scrutiny he gets. And if that man says
that there are 57 states in the union -- even after pausing to remember the number --
that's fair grounds for concern.
Here's the clip again:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws[/youtube]
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22 May 2008, 8:23 am
22 May 2008, 8:29 am
22 May 2008, 8:31 am
Odin wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
AspE wrote:
No one can be worse than the moron we have now
Oh, it's a bad mistake to think like that!
Wait 2 years. Then tell me Bush was worse.
Anyone is better then Bush.
That's a foolish statement on the face of it.
22 May 2008, 10:01 am
22 May 2008, 10:28 am
22 May 2008, 11:01 am
22 May 2008, 11:15 am
22 May 2008, 11:22 am
22 May 2008, 11:35 am
srriv345 wrote:
Since when did "nearby" necessarily mean sharing a border? Oy. I'm sure I've said or implied before that New Jersey is "nearby" Conneticut or Maryland. I guess that makes me an ignorant idiot. Oh well.
His whole point was that Arkansas is nearer to Kentucky than Illinois is.
That claim is untrue, so his point falls flat. Fine, don't see it.
But -- and I'm feeling sympathetic here -- let's assume, just for the moment and just for sake of this argument, that Illinois and Arkansas are equidistant from Kentucky.
How, even then, does Obama's statement make any sense?
He said that Arkansas is "nearby" Kentucky,
contrasting its placement with that of his home state, Illinois.
But even if you consider the two states equidistant from Kentucky,
how does he even have a point for saying Hillary would be more familiar with Kentucky
because of her home state's geographical proximity to it -- when his own state's proximity
would be no further?
Again, Obama's claim has lost all but the tiniest interest for me by this point;
rather, what's fascinating is how Obama's supporters blindly rally 'round him as if he's infallible.
He's not quite a moron, but c'mon!
How embarassing to associate yourself with this guy!
And he's corrupt to boot! (Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright, the list goes up with the days on the calendar.)
Not presidential material.
Honestly, the 10,000 tornado deaths in Kansas and America's 57 states are far more entertaining Obamisms.
22 May 2008, 11:49 am
22 May 2008, 12:32 pm
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