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Which do you prefer?
Jesus 27%  27%  [ 7 ]
Buddha 65%  65%  [ 17 ]
Satan 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 26

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02 Jun 2008, 9:51 am

Nothing to see here people, move along, move along.

Raggy, give it a rest. If all you can do is paraphrase folklore, then I think any debate is wasted on you. I think dusting off my copy of Dantes' Inferno would give me a better read.

BTW, Christ should've accepted Buddha as his lord, afterall, Buddha predated him by at least 1000 years. Don't know what you are talking about at the best of times, old son.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:00 am

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Don't know what you are talking about at the best of times, old son.


Perhaps you don't. It will be more merciful for you in the day of judgment in that case, because Jesus said that those who reject Him while seeing more clearly who He is will be judged more harshly than those who reject Him in greater ignorance of His identity.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:06 am

What judgement are you talking about? Your Christian one? Doesn't affect me, as my birth-rebirth cycle will outlast anything your so called deity can throw up. Besides, we pagans worry not about what affects you, we just wish you would exercise more tolerance of others and stop all the pulpit -bashing.

BTW, it's you who doesn't know what he is talking about.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:08 am

good to see a fellow pagan

Jesus ain't coming back
okay-thats idiotic, christianity is one of the dumbest concepts ever created-yeah it was created! man wrote the bible not some sky man!
I worship the sun-the true giver
it gives me life-without it I-you and EVERYTHING would die!!
that's God, right there



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02 Jun 2008, 10:11 am

The_Chosen_One wrote:
What judgement are you talking about?


The final judgment of God.

The_Chosen_One wrote:
Doesn't affect me, as my birth-rebirth cycle will outlast anything your so called deity can throw up.


That's your own false comfort.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:14 am

how it is comfort to be cowering before something you can't see
I can't see your god, I can't hear him, he doesn't let me know he's there

so what makes him there?



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02 Jun 2008, 10:14 am

Kilroy wrote:
good to see a fellow pagan

Jesus ain't coming back
okay-thats idiotic, christianity is one of the dumbest concepts ever created-yeah it was created! man wrote the bible not some sky man!
I worship the sun-the true giver
it gives me life-without it I-you and EVERYTHING would die!!
that's God, right there


"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matt 4:4)

Man lives neither by bread nor the sun, but by the sheer force of God's will.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:16 am

No, reality, dips**t. If you got you head out of that book long enough you might actually find some.

QFT, Kilroy. Well said.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:17 am

Kilroy wrote:
how it is comfort to be cowering before something you can't see


I don't cower before God, because He has promised me mercy.

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I can't see your god, I can't hear him, he doesn't let me know he's there


You already know He's there. You just choose not to seek Him and know Him better.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:18 am

Ragtime wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
good to see a fellow pagan

Jesus ain't coming back
okay-thats idiotic, christianity is one of the dumbest concepts ever created-yeah it was created! man wrote the bible not some sky man!
I worship the sun-the true giver
it gives me life-without it I-you and EVERYTHING would die!!
that's God, right there


"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matt 4:4)

Man lives neither by bread nor the sun, but by the sheer force of God's will.


f**k god
I am doing a fine job surviving without him
what about all the people he lets die?
eg Holocost, WW1 and 2, the thing in Darfur there, the Crusades?
if God was real-then he would have interveined by now-wouldn't he? if he really cares



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02 Jun 2008, 10:27 am

Is Aquaman gay?



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02 Jun 2008, 10:29 am

Besides, if I had to rely on the word of god to feed me, I'd f*****g starve to death. Luckily for me I am not that ignorant.


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02 Jun 2008, 10:29 am

Seaman is



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02 Jun 2008, 12:19 pm

Kilroy wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
good to see a fellow pagan

Jesus ain't coming back
okay-thats idiotic, christianity is one of the dumbest concepts ever created-yeah it was created! man wrote the bible not some sky man!
I worship the sun-the true giver
it gives me life-without it I-you and EVERYTHING would die!!
that's God, right there


"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matt 4:4)

Man lives neither by bread nor the sun, but by the sheer force of God's will.


f**k god
I am doing a fine job surviving without him
what about all the people he lets die?
eg Holocost, WW1 and 2, the thing in Darfur there, the Crusades?


Satan killed them. And you're serving Satan.
You're serving the author of the Holocaust.


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02 Jun 2008, 3:20 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
good to see a fellow pagan

Jesus ain't coming back
okay-thats idiotic, christianity is one of the dumbest concepts ever created-yeah it was created! man wrote the bible not some sky man!
I worship the sun-the true giver
it gives me life-without it I-you and EVERYTHING would die!!
that's God, right there


"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matt 4:4)

Man lives neither by bread nor the sun, but by the sheer force of God's will.


Quit parroting your fairy tales, nobody cares you arrogant twit.


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02 Jun 2008, 4:38 pm

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Satan killed them. And you're serving Satan.
You're serving the author of the Holocaust.


I have a genuine question about Christianity pertaining to what you just said.

Okay, so the most common question against a loving God is often "why do atrocities happen (in some form." The common reply by the defending Christian is that even though God is the creator and is all knowing, he gave us free will and we are free to choose an do what we like, including acts that go against God. Inversely, often times when someone performs acts that are biblically "good" they said to be doing the work of God.

So my question is, from a Christian standpoint, do we really have free will, or at any time are we being controlled by God (for good acts) or Satan (for ungodly acts)? Do you really believe that it was Satan behind the holocaust, or simply a human being exercising his free will that God gave him?


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