911 issue: I wonder, what do majority of American ppl

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I'm only going to say one thing.

No matter who is eventually unmasked as the "real" perpetrators of 9/11, will that change anything? Will it undo any of the tragedy, death, and destruction? What good will it do?

Fnord:

From your beloved Wikipedia:

= that al Qaeda/Osama/monkeys/aliens/reptilians/Batman were behind the attacks.


Wikiscanner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiScanner

And if you really need evidence that your Bush admin are a bunch of psychopaths and their actions of the last 8 years haven't proved that already, then you're beyond hope and I can't be bothered even trying to explain without the use of expletives and insults.




Slowmutant - sadly, nothing.

I have often wondered why the most ardent supporters of the "911 Insider Conspiracy Theories" all seem to be from outside America, and mostly from countries with large Islamic and/or Socialist populations.

Now what would the obvious answer be. Hmm, perhaps because we can see the bigger picture from here without the government propaganda and spin machine infecting our minds?

Also, I'm from a country with large populations of everything. I'm not one to subscribe to any one form of politik, and yes there are a lot of muslims here but I don't know any personally and they certainly don't have a great deal of influence anywhere except their own insular - peaceful - communities, so I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Whenever I find myself unable to determine fact from propaganda, I usually don't explore the issue any further. Who were the real 9/11 perpetrators? Bad guys, that's who. Arab or American, I am not sure. Probably both.

A friend of mine here in Minnesota is also one of the 'ardent supporters of the "911 Insider Conspiracy Theories"', but I haven't had much experience with foreigners on this issue. You'd certainly get larger numbers of people outside America, about one order of magnitude more people to get opinions from.

LeKiwi wrote:

Evidence is inherent by definition.
9/11 was by definition a "conspiracy" (evil plan). Not an accident nor a good thing.
A "Theory" is by definition an unproven but useful hypothesis.



Truth is good, Lies are bad! ...Because...
The more lies you believe, the less REAL your world is!

edit:
New York is very anti-bush. Now why would that be so in the case of them being
the victims of the attack, when other states support his kind of "war on terror"?
Perhaps because there are 10 million eyewitnesses to 9/11 HERE
that contradict the official story? Even HERE (in New York), not other countries.

Last edited by ValMikeSmith on 28 Aug 2008, 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Yes, but what good is truth after the fact? Obviously it's too late to stop the evil plan.

...and the less chance there is of changing things and stopping the madness and maiming the US government is inflicting on the rest of the world in the name of 'security' and 'peace'. You can't change things if you don't know what's happening, and the only ones with a real chance of changing anything are the people of the US - not through voting or 'democracy' because the days of democracy in the US are long gone, but through grass-roots movements and revolution.

(Oh how very Continental).

Revolution = Domestic Terrorism?

Well, if you believe Bush is reading your email, then this crap would sure get his attention.

Imagine yourself innocent and charged with a crime, and you will know what good truth is.

And if we all knew the truth then they would never do it again. (But we don't, so they will.)

Not necessarily. Not hurting any of the laypeople anyway... I dunno. Not hurting anyone if it can be helped, that's what they're best at doing so we'll leave it to them. I just mean a revolution as in a major overhaul of the current system and new people put in charge.


[parakeet... I'm sure Bush has better things to do than trawl a site full of aspies and auties. And if not, well, even more reason to get some new leaders! ]

By law a president can only serve two terms, so Bush has only 3 months and 3 days to go.

Sorry, I meant real new leaders... not just new puppet-figures. But nevertheless, hooray! I will miss his Bushisms though - it'll still be the same old, same old no matter who gets in. He's evil but at least he's amusing in his stupidity.

If their is a major event occurs a conspiracy theory will always crop up around it. Every single man-made event (as well as many natural ones) in the past century has a conspiracy following. 9/11 is simply no exception.

Lets take the JFK assassination for example. Conspiracy theorists clam that one bullet could not of made the injuries in Kennedy and Connally (excluding the last shot to the back of Kennedy's head of course) because the injuries don't line up. However this requires the assumption that both Kennedy and Connally are facing forward and their seats line up perfectly. Neither of these are true, and if the film evidence is properly analyzed you'll find that the injuries made by the second shot (the so called "magic bullet") line up perfectly. Heck Lee Harvey Oswalds own brother doesn't buy the conspiracy theory.

Another example is the Moon Landing. If you caught last night's Mythbusters they picked out the most common claims of "evidence" and were able to either flat out disprove, or come up with viable alternative explanations (which would hold true if we were actually on the moon) for every single one tested. The so-called "flag-fluttering in the breeze" is a simple result of momentum and the Astronauts putting it into place, in shots where no astronaut is touching the flag, it is completely still.

While their have been real conspiracies, such as Watergate, and thereforth people have every right to call things into question. There comes a time when you have to accept that things are as they seem and the government isn't actually out to lie and cheat you at every possible opportunity.

As for 9/11 I find the likelihood of it being an inside job extremely far-fetched. They assume that the collapse was a result of a controlled demolition. Seemingly ignoring the simple facts that:
1. The collapse originates at the point of impact in both towers
2. The collapse is a simple result of heat-softened steel (not melted!) sagging on top of undamaged supports until even these gave way to the overwhelming weight. Once it started the sheer momentum kept it going.
3. A much smaller scale non-suicide attack could of justified the war. You have to assume our entire ELECTED government is suffering from sever antisocial personality disorder (the same one serial killers have).