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30 Aug 2008, 3:31 am

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I would prefer mccain to win to piss on all the liberals. i also enjoyed ru paul getting all the lousy treatment for the political fad that he is.

Sarah Palin is purty. Ill vote for her if she autographs my picture.



this is RuPaul, the famous Drag Queen

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and this is RON Paul, the Independent Polititian

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I was aware of it when I posted the comment. I prefer the sounding of Ru Paul to Ron Paul as the latter irritates me for some reason. The N + P is a bit :?


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30 Aug 2008, 7:42 am

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I was aware of it when I posted the comment. I prefer the sounding of Ru Paul to Ron Paul as the latter irritates me for some reason. The N + P is a bit :?


I guess you're right. In the English language, usually M precedes P in the same word (impolite, impressive, impossible). I can't think of a single word where N comes immediately before P.

Well, it turns out that, linguistically speaking at least, it is a good thing that Rom Paul did not get elected. Why didn't he just go with "Ronald Paul?" Does he want people to confuse him with a famous pope?



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30 Aug 2008, 11:28 am

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I was aware of it when I posted the comment. I prefer the sounding of Ru Paul to Ron Paul as the latter irritates me for some reason. The N + P is a bit :?


I guess you're right. In the English language, usually M precedes P in the same word (impolite, impressive, impossible). I can't think of a single word where N comes immediately before P.

Well, it turns out that, linguistically speaking at least, it is a good thing that Rom Paul did not get elected. Why didn't he just go with "Ronald Paul?" Does he want people to confuse him with a famous pope?


There was a Pope named Ronald Paul??


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30 Aug 2008, 11:56 am

I think McCain's pick was savvy (note, if I were American I would unenthusiastically vote for Obama) - a hardline social conservative that will appeal to his base, is a woman and so might appeal to Hillary supporters and steals some of Obama's 'newness' and 'change' aura and, having served as mayor and governor, is both younger and more experienced than Obama. Obama's camp hubris in denouncing her lack of experience (have they checked their own candidate's CV?) is on a level of hypocrisy comparable to the McCain's camp assertion that 'in the twenty-first century, countries don't invade other countries' (Iraq must not be a country, then). She has no foreign policy experience, but neither does Obama, and he has never served asgovernor or mayor.


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30 Aug 2008, 12:04 pm

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I think McCain's pick was savvy (note, if I were American I would unenthusiastically vote for Obama) - a hardline social conservative that will appeal to his base, is a woman and so might appeal to Hillary supporters and steals some of Obama's 'newness' and 'change' aura and, having served as mayor and governor, is both younger and more experienced than Obama. Obama's camp hubris in denouncing her lack of experience (have they checked their own candidate's CV?) is on a level of hypocrisy comparable to the McCain's camp assertion that 'in the twenty-first century, countries don't invade other countries' (Iraq must not be a country, then). She has no foreign policy experience, but neither does Obama, and he has never served asgovernor or mayor.


humm. .I didn't see where the Obama camp decried her at all, let alone a lack of experience.

personally, I have heard more men say they wanted to 'vote for the babe' rather than the Hillary diehards wanting to vote against pro-choice and pro guns.


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30 Aug 2008, 2:08 pm

John McCain is being desperate.

If he wanted Hillary voters to vote for him,
he would have needed someone who would really
appeal to Hillary voters and finish up what Hillary didn't complete.


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30 Aug 2008, 3:12 pm

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John McCain is being desperate.

If he wanted Hillary voters to vote for him,
he would have needed someone who would really
appeal to Hillary voters and finish up what Hillary didn't complete.


well, didn't Obama nail it when he said "John McCain just doesn't get it"

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30 Aug 2008, 3:19 pm

"What a curve ball," I thought. But I don't think it's going to appeal to Clinton voters at all IMO, and possibly hurt his chances even worse. Now at least we don't have to hear him complain about how Obama doesn't have enough experience...



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30 Aug 2008, 3:55 pm

Both of these presidential candidates are conservatives in liberal clothing. Nuff said. McCain is a monster, and Obama isn't that much different from McCain. Just look at their voting records and you will see what I mean by this. Voting records are the one thing a politician can't hide or change.


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30 Aug 2008, 4:08 pm

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Both of these presidential candidates are conservatives in liberal clothing. Nuff said. McCain is a monster, and Obama isn't that much different from McCain. Just look at their voting records and you will see what I mean by this. Voting records are the one thing a politician can't hide or change.


do you have a list of their voting records handy so we can see what you mean?

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30 Aug 2008, 5:01 pm

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"What a curve ball," I thought. But I don't think it's going to appeal to Clinton voters at all IMO, and possibly hurt his chances even worse. Now at least we don't have to hear him complain about how Obama doesn't have enough experience...


I agree. Most women who would love to see a woman in the Whitehouse for 4 or 8 years would not settle for a woman who is opposed to abortion even in the case of rape.



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30 Aug 2008, 6:06 pm

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Most women who would love to see a woman in the Whitehouse for 4 or 8 years would not settle for a woman who is opposed to abortion even in the case of rape.

I've heard others around my college laugh at the idea that a "pro-life woman" would get any of the female vote, and don't quite understand why that matters. Where I grew up, almost all women I met were strongly pro-life, even in the case of rape.


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30 Aug 2008, 6:59 pm

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She has no foreign policy experience, but neither does Obama, and he has never served asgovernor or mayor.


Actually, my uber-conservative dad was all like "Well she does have to deal with Canadian and Russian neighbors" I guess the ladder would be more likely volitile and worth considering in foriegn policy, even though she has no european or middle eastern experience. Maybe a little bit of China experience.


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30 Aug 2008, 8:08 pm

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I've heard others around my college laugh at the idea that a "pro-life woman" would get any of the female vote, and don't quite understand why that matters. Where I grew up, almost all women I met were strongly pro-life, even in the case of rape.


Many women are pro-life.



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30 Aug 2008, 8:29 pm

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pbcoll wrote:
I think McCain's pick was savvy (note, if I were American I would unenthusiastically vote for Obama) - a hardline social conservative that will appeal to his base, is a woman and so might appeal to Hillary supporters and steals some of Obama's 'newness' and 'change' aura and, having served as mayor and governor, is both younger and more experienced than Obama. Obama's camp hubris in denouncing her lack of experience (have they checked their own candidate's CV?) is on a level of hypocrisy comparable to the McCain's camp assertion that 'in the twenty-first century, countries don't invade other countries' (Iraq must not be a country, then). She has no foreign policy experience, but neither does Obama, and he has never served as governor or mayor.


humm. .I didn't see where the Obama camp decried her at all, let alone a lack of experience.


His spokesman specifically atacked McCain putting someone with no foreign policy experience and who served as a mayor of a town of x-thousand inhabitants (without mentioning that she's the governor as well). It's a bit rich given that it's more experience than Obama has.


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31 Aug 2008, 12:15 am

I'm still digesting this one myself, but I'm leaning more towards "savvy" at the moment. I was horrified at the idea that he would take Romney, but Palin is interesting. I actually knew who she was because of her willingness to take down fellow Republicans that broke ethics codes and to go after oil companies, something refreshing to see in a conservative Republican. Timing was good too, take the spotlight off of Obama right when he expects to get the biggest boost of publicity out of his convention pageant. So far, this is looking to me like one of the better played bits of campaigning out of the McCain camp, and one of the few glimpses I've seen of the old maverick McCain from the 2000 elections.


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