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10 Sep 2008, 9:23 am

chever wrote:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/greece/paganism/hypatia.html


I doubt scientia had anything to do with her death.



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10 Sep 2008, 9:24 am

And I just realized, I actually have a copy of Principia in another book, On the Shoulders of Giants.

Edit: Entertainingly enough, it was sitting underneath a book entitled "Attack of the Bacon Robots".



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10 Sep 2008, 9:26 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
chever wrote:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/greece/paganism/hypatia.html


I doubt scientia had anything to do with her death.


Religious zealots did


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10 Sep 2008, 9:27 am

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Francis Bacon, and I don't see why it would contain the other two, as these are books on the history of medicine.


Sorry, I was referring to science in general without thinking of the field of medicine.



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10 Sep 2008, 9:29 am

chever wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
chever wrote:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/greece/paganism/hypatia.html


I doubt scientia had anything to do with her death.


Religious zealots did


The Zealotim were still around in the 5th century? I thought the last of them died at Masada. :P



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10 Sep 2008, 10:11 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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An entire book of it from the History of Medicine class I took as a bacchore class a few years ago. And I'm not blaming religion in any way, it's mostly the majority of humans are inherently xenophobic.


This was a history book written in the last 150 years or a source text?


I don't believe it was presented as either. You got a source for that?



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10 Sep 2008, 11:03 am

slowmutant wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
DNForrest wrote:
An entire book of it from the History of Medicine class I took as a bacchore class a few years ago. And I'm not blaming religion in any way, it's mostly the majority of humans are inherently xenophobic.


This was a history book written in the last 150 years or a source text?


I don't believe it was presented as either. You got a source for that?


I was asking about DNForrest's history textbook, what are you talking about?



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10 Sep 2008, 11:14 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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An entire book of it from the History of Medicine class I took as a bacchore class a few years ago. And I'm not blaming religion in any way, it's mostly the majority of humans are inherently xenophobic.


This was a history book written in the last 150 years or a source text?


I don't believe it was presented as either. You got a source for that?


I was asking about DNForrest's history textbook, what are you talking about?


Asking for sources all the time can get really irritating.



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10 Sep 2008, 11:21 am

slowmutant wrote:
Asking for sources all the time can get really irritating.


I wasn't asking for a reference, but asking the age and the type of the book basically. There's a difference between a textbook and the material that the textbook is based on, do you know?



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10 Sep 2008, 12:10 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Asking for sources all the time can get really irritating.

Perhaps, but some people would ask one to support their claims, mostly those from the opposite view, if those claims are said to be facts, or are stated with much certainty by the poster, otherwise it could be taken as mere opinion. As it happens here.


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10 Sep 2008, 12:24 pm

I'm not a creationist but I have a problem with it. Just like I have a massive problem with GMOs.


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10 Sep 2008, 12:36 pm

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I'm not a creationist but I have a problem with it. Just like I have a massive problem with GMOs.


I suppose if they can do this and actually figure out what they're doing, then they might be able to develop biological weapons from scratch rather than just modifying existing organisms.



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10 Sep 2008, 12:45 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I suppose if they can do this and actually figure out what they're doing, then they might be able to develop biological weapons from scratch rather than just modifying existing organisms.


Military weapons, always one of the best drives in creating new technology. I'd like to see this result in microorganisms that build circuitry, as the current methods can only get us so far. Though there's always the issue of us accidentally creating super-bugs and causing the apocalypse.



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10 Sep 2008, 12:49 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
I'm not a creationist but I have a problem with it. Just like I have a massive problem with GMOs.


I suppose if they can do this and actually figure out what they're doing, then they might be able to develop biological weapons from scratch rather than just modifying existing organisms.


But they still would be unpredictable - complex systems like 'humanity' don't always respond the way one expects, and any self-replicating disease might lose it's targeting and boomerang.



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10 Sep 2008, 12:53 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
chever wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
chever wrote:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/greece/paganism/hypatia.html


I doubt scientia had anything to do with her death.


Religious zealots did


The Zealotim were still around in the 5th century? I thought the last of them died at Masada. :P


I didn't mean Hebrews revolting against the Roman Empire

'zealot' lower case 'z', and two syllables not three


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10 Sep 2008, 12:53 pm

If God had problems with creating life, why should humans be more lucky?