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12 Sep 2008, 11:03 pm

Karma is a frequently useful but fictional abstraction

It doesn't always hold up, but there are many cases where it obviously makes sense

Doing good things, especially without any recognition, does not mean things will go swimmingly for you; likewise doing evil does not always mean bad things will come to you

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12 Sep 2008, 11:03 pm

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Pacifist...isn't that that thing that babies suck on?

No, you are thinking of another p-word.

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12 Sep 2008, 11:04 pm

Aren't infants a little young for that kind of thing?

Oh, pacifier; never mind

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12 Sep 2008, 11:08 pm

chever wrote:

Aren't infants a little young for that kind of thing?

You are never too young to start having a healthy sex life. I mean, thinking like yours just keeps people repressed.

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12 Sep 2008, 11:12 pm

Phagocyte wrote:

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Whoever does these gay killings and gay bashing has gotten that negative energy from somewhere. Random homicides exist where people get shot or stabbed for no apparent reason.

Goes to show how much pain and sickness there is in the world.

maybe.. i guess that could be true.

and yes. . much pain and much sickness

I don't think it has anything to do with kharma or energy. I think this world just has people that are morally bankrupt and/or severely mentally unstable. There's no energy...just people.

People run on fuels both subtle and gross. People ARE energy.

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12 Sep 2008, 11:12 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

chever wrote:

Aren't infants a little young for that kind of thing?

You are never too young to start having a healthy sex life. I mean, thinking like yours just keeps people repressed.

Hey baby ... wanna get me on?

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12 Sep 2008, 11:13 pm

chever wrote:

You don't believe in karma but you should. You reap what you sow. Yours is too much of a machine-mind to really appreciate it.

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12 Sep 2008, 11:17 pm

slowmutant wrote:

You don't believe in karma but you should. You reap what you sow. Yours is too much of a machine-mind to really appreciate it.

The principle "you reap what you sow" has at least one exception

In fact, I can think of an example very easily: Pennsylvania state legislators. By all accounts, many of them would be hanging from lampposts by now if the cosmos were really just.

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12 Sep 2008, 11:51 pm

slowmutant wrote:

Phagocyte wrote:

ShawnWilliam wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

Whoever does these gay killings and gay bashing has gotten that negative energy from somewhere. Random homicides exist where people get shot or stabbed for no apparent reason.

Goes to show how much pain and sickness there is in the world.

maybe.. i guess that could be true.

and yes. . much pain and much sickness

I don't think it has anything to do with kharma or energy. I think this world just has people that are morally bankrupt and/or severely mentally unstable. There's no energy...just people.

People run on fuels both subtle and gross. People ARE energy.

no energy?.. that's ridiculous.. studies prove that we have energy.. the only problem is that there is no way to 'measure' it which means it has no relevance yet in scientific analysis.. there is way more than enough proof out there that we have energy.
just look at this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4IJvIlHeOU

you have to admit.. he's doin SOMething..

that was the best one i could find.. but there's tons of healers out there, open your eyes, get with reality. That's not the proof though.. the proof is with basic studies.. read the Celestine Prohecy, it's a great book.

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13 Sep 2008, 12:46 am

slowmutant wrote:

I'm not a violent man. I'm a pacifiist, like Jesus was. Even if I wanted to, I don't think I could ever hurt somebody else regardless of how they've hurt me.

Well, with this quote, it didn't seem like that so much

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If I could only get my hands on you ...

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And I am a big believer in the Golden Rule and the reciprocity of energies. I believe you will encounter more violence in your life if you are a naturally aggressive person than if you're a naturally peaceful person.

I agree, however, it is not always the case, sadly.

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13 Sep 2008, 12:54 am

chever wrote:

Karma is a frequently useful but fictional abstraction

It doesn't always hold up, but there are many cases where it obviously makes sense.

Yes, the word seem to have different uses and connotations, I usually take karma as cause and effect, with our actions.

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Doing good things, especially without any recognition, does not mean things will go swimmingly for you; likewise doing evil does not always mean bad things will come to you

I agree.

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13 Sep 2008, 1:25 am

chever wrote:

Oh, pacifier; never mind

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVq8QS_uKeo[/youtube]

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13 Sep 2008, 1:43 am

slowmutant wrote:

I agree completely. What you send out, you get back. There are quite a few people in my life who have f***ed me over so badly it's taken me years to get to the point of "over it"-ness that I'm at now, and I still am not completely healed. The blows keep coming. But frankly, I could never wish these people death or harm. If not for them , then in my own self-interest. Failure to forgive only hurts the person holding the grudge. "Misery is in the eye of the Grudge-holder" so to speak. :wink:

But seriously, I believe in total forgiveness of most wrongdoings. I'm sure there might be a line somewhere that should be drawn where a wrongdoing is incapable of being forgiven, but I don't know where that line lies, if it exists, and it isn't my job to draw it. Until then, I try to love and be loved. I'm not Christian, but I am a strong advocate of the Golden Rule. I think things are in a right state in the world today. I don't need to add to it by contributing my petty grievances. The best I can do is love and be loved. That's the most good anyone can do, and believe me, it makes a difference.

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13 Sep 2008, 10:57 am

Violence begets violence.
Hate begets hate.
Evil begets evil.

Basically, this is the pacifist mindset.

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13 Sep 2008, 12:26 pm

Yes, and it makes a lot of sense to me...

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13 Sep 2008, 4:05 pm

Pacifist here reporting.

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