Re-Incarnation

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Shouldn't this be in the religion section as well the supernatural thread?

I've never thought about it like that. Bravo!

I don't believe earth is home either. Ah, we'll all find out when we die. I defineitly believe there is more, for all the stuff i've heard from close realitives. I still have a lot to learn, and i'm trying to make an effort.

Yes I believe it too

I never have, but I found it interesting that Edgar Cayce who was a christian said that reincarnation fit in well with his beliefs in god. Kinda has made me wonder a little bit after I read that.

I'm buddhist so I kinda believe in reincarnation. I think I always had a hard time believing that there can be something else than *this*. I think *this* is really all there is and it's a neverending circle.

I don't believe that it's the mind that's aspie though, I believe it's the body that carries such things like personality and trais of character.

I'm inclined to believe there's something like this going on. There aren't a lot of dead ends in natural phenomena. Things transform and change, but they usually don't just cease to exist.

As an idea to consider, it also provides an interesting perspective, like the apparently meaningless circumstances and events of my life actually having some significance, maybe some purpose that isn't superficially obvious.

I guess I can develop my own belief system. That's where belief systems come from anyway.

There's the species question. Would we be limited to coming back as humans, and is that all there is in our background? That seems unlikely to me. The phenomenon that animates other living things seems to have much in common with the phenomenon that makes me alive.

I got to watch a packrat in the workshop yesterday. Watching me cautiously, he dared to come out and go exploring. They don't look like rats, more like a squirrel that lives indoors.

Incredibly athletic, he jumped from shelf top to shelf top, hiding, then cautiously emerging again. They tap a foot on the floor in rhythm when they're scared or interested in something. If you listen close, you sometimes hear it.

I see the evidence of his obsession everyday. He collects shiny things: nails, small tools, steel electric box covers, anything shiny, and gathers them in one spot on the workshop floor. Each day, things disappear from the collection and new things are added.

I think it would be fun to spend a lifetime as a packrat, despite the many predators that give life an edge and provide context, like the picture frame around a painting that guides the eye to the beauty.

YES I agree with this too. As far as coming back as a different species, its possible but I am not so sure about what happens really happens with animals. Correct me if I am wrong on this but I heard that Buddhists believe if you had accumulated karmic debt in one life, then you'll come back as an animal. However, I am not Buddhist and I do not believe this to be true at all... but its an interesting concept. If it is indeed true, then I hate to know what Adolf Hitler would have come back as.

My 6 y/o son said something to me the other day about reincarnation that totally blew me away. Really left me scratching my head. He's verbal, but not in the way of spontaneous conversation, so that's why I found what he said to be even more odd. It went something like this:

Him: "when you die, you come back to be born again?"

Me: " I don't really know. Maybe..."

Him: "Why Sid (our cat) decide to be a cat instead of a man when he came back?"

Me: " I'm not sure he had a choice. Do you think we have choices?"

Him: "Yes" Then he walked off.

I have no idea where that came from. We aren't religious, and we don't ever talk about the afterlife in front of him. Though, I used to be super obsessed with anything paranormal, psychic, and New Agey I don't remember ever speaking about it in front of him.

I wonder what my karmic bankbook looks like at the moment ...

For a $1.99 a minute I'll tell you.

And how the hell would you know what my karmic bankbook looks like? I don't mean my past or future, I mean my credits for and debts against, the red ink and black ink. Can even a powerful clairvoyant gaze into the karmic records of another entity?

The invincibility of energy/matter is a clue pointing towards reincarnation.

The Druzes* of Lebanon , a sect that believes in reincarnation after death, always tell me stories of this and that child who could recognize the family of his previous life and telling his/her parent about the spouse of his previous life. They even told me once a their famous story about a 5 years old kid who took the bus alone and visited the family of his previous life whose their home is miles away.

There's was even a local TV program interviewing Druze children who are talking about their 'previous life' , their previous family life , school life , work life, marriage life ....and even about their previous sex life.

Personally I believe that those kids are brainwashed by an organized secretive sect in order to strengthen the faith of their people , these kids are psychologically abused.


*The Druze sect is Islamic in origin but reformist in nature and very secretive in practice , they removed all the violent verses from the Qu'aran (and so adopted a light peaceful version of it) , removed the polygamy , Dhimmi rules ,Djihad and all forms of gender inequalities. Druzes are a large minority in Lebanon but most families with 'princehood' blood are among Druzes (most princes who ruled Lebanon during history ....were Druze) , Lebanese Druze princes and princesses have no political authority anymore but they still formally hold the title on their IDs.

Unlike Muslims , Druzes believe in Christ as the incarnation of God in human body , it is also said that they believe that the Christ and Jesus are two different identities but I personally know little about that one.


Druze society is divided into 2 categories : The Ignorant ones and the "Sages". the ignorant form about 90% of the Druze , they know little about their religion and don't have access to the its secrets and they wear normally like any people.
The "Sages" are usually their elders , Sage men usually have a long white beard and wear a jewish-like white hat while elder women cover their hair and mouth with white transparent scarf. The Sages are the only ones who have access to the ultimate secret of the Druze religion which is Kitab el Hikmah ("The Book of Wisdom") that holds all the secrets about the afterlife and reincarnation. No non-Druze or no-Sage is allowed to access this book, any non-Druze who access this book is condemned to death with no question (well..yea they are not always nice people).

Unlike Muslims, Druzes don't pray in Mosques but their Sages usually gather in isolated places called "Al Khilwa" ...the Book of Wisdom is probably in one of those places, they are like groves located in isolated places like forests. No one knows what they do in their secret groves.


Ok....that was bit off-topic but I am obsessed by ancient history and culture and religions are part of it but I believe none in them.


It is not even possible that memories can be transferred from body to another (unless if your replant the hippocampus of brain in the other body where the long-term memory are located?) ... a brain illness like Alzheimer might damages the memories of the same person and would never return so if the Soul is really the 'reservoir' of memories then total amnesia cases must never happen....of course science proved that only the brain is the reservoir of human's memories.

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I think I must have been some sort of cat in a past life.

actually it's not that easy. basically, buddhists believe that to be born as a human being is *extremely* fortunate. I can't remember now how this metaphor goes but it was something like throwing a rock into the ocean and hitting a fish in the head (provided that there is only one fish in the whole ocean), of course there's no way you can count the odds of that ;p but still, the theory is that you only get a human life once in a long, long while. so basically if your karma is on the dodgy side you can forget about coming back a human. I guess that it makes sense considering the number of creatures with at least some partial conciousness.

personally I like to think that people such as Hitler fall into a neverending circle of lives as mosquitos and other filthy creatures that everybody kills with pleasure