Wood you believe me if I told you I was Jesus reincarnation?

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26 Sep 2008, 6:24 pm

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Jesus said it will be obvious (no faith will be required to know) when he comes back.

Some kind of global miracle that everyone will see. Maybe like "the rapture".


"Nevertheless, when the Son of man arrives, will he really find the faith on the earth?"

Luke 18:8

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26 Sep 2008, 6:26 pm

It always amazes me how non-believers are quick to quote scripture.



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26 Sep 2008, 6:58 pm

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It always amazes me how non-believers are quick to quote scripture.


For what reason would you consider me to be a non-believer.. ?

I believe in what the bible is teaching.. don't I.. ?

I believe that love your neigbour should be the law of the land.. and that we should all try our best to live by it.

I believe in establishing.. loving kindness.. righteousness.. justice.. peace.. wisdom.. truth and freedom.

So.. may I ask.. in what sense could I be considered to be a non-believer.. ?

In what respect am I demonstrating a non-belief in the bible's teachings.. ?

Evidence.. please.. :-)

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26 Sep 2008, 6:59 pm

Thank you for quoting more scripture and thereby demonstrating my point.


You're a believer when it suits you.



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26 Sep 2008, 7:04 pm

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Wood you believe me if I told you I was Jesus reincarnation?

If not, would it be because I spelt 'would' as 'wood'? :lol:

Which one?
Jesus del Reyes?
Jesus Soto-Karass?
Jesus Antonio Miguel Sanchez?
...?

(FTR: There's no such thing as Reincarnation.)


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26 Sep 2008, 7:14 pm

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(FTR: There's no such thing as Reincarnation.)


An opinion.



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26 Sep 2008, 7:15 pm

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Thank you for quoting more scripture and thereby demonstrating my point.


You're a believer when it suits you.


You point concerned non-believers.. since you offer no evidence that I'm a non-believer.. your point is void.

So again.. evidence please.

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"For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his
commandments; and yet his commandments are not burdensome.."

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26 Sep 2008, 7:18 pm

:roll: Quoting scripture doesn't prove anything. It proves that you can read.



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26 Sep 2008, 7:57 pm

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:roll: Quoting scripture doesn't prove anything. It proves that you can read.


What proofs.. do you consider.. are required to reach "believer" status then.. ?

Actions.. rather than words.. maybe.

How does your activity differ from mine.. ?

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“When your forefathers put me to the proof; They examined me, they also saw my activity.”

Psalms 95:9

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26 Sep 2008, 9:15 pm

What were the exact words quoted by The "Jesus" ? Also, WHEN were they said? Were the words said before he was crucified, if so, then we are waiting for nothing. If it was said after, did he say he would be Jesus or would it be another and NOT Jesus...?

Did people in those times presume he meant something else and wrote that instead?



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26 Sep 2008, 10:12 pm

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What were the exact words quoted by The "Jesus" ? Also, WHEN were they said? Were the words said before he was crucified, if so, then we are waiting for nothing. If it was said after, did he say he would be Jesus or would it be another and NOT Jesus...?

Did people in those times presume he meant something else and wrote that instead?


People in those times did not pick apart language. Jesus wrote absolutely nothing, from the day he was born til the day he died. Jesus Christ did not write the Bible.



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26 Sep 2008, 10:41 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Keith wrote:
What were the exact words quoted by The "Jesus" ? Also, WHEN were they said? Were the words said before he was crucified, if so, then we are waiting for nothing. If it was said after, did he say he would be Jesus or would it be another and NOT Jesus...?

Did people in those times presume he meant something else and wrote that instead?


People in those times did not pick apart language. Jesus wrote absolutely nothing, from the day he was born til the day he died. Jesus Christ did not write the Bible.

Then why do you trust the bible? Especially over other ancient texts that claim the gods themselves actually wrote the texts, not some old people who 'claim' to be witnesses of this. Especially as the bible was written over 40 years after the supposed events, which the events aren't recorded anywhere else but the bible.



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26 Sep 2008, 10:45 pm

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(FTR: There's no such thing as Reincarnation.)

An opinion.

No. A delusion-less fact.


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Fnord wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
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(FTR: There's no such thing as Reincarnation.)

An opinion.

No. A delusion-less fact.


Prove to me that reincarnation does not exist.



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26 Sep 2008, 10:55 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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(FTR: There's no such thing as Reincarnation.)

An opinion.

No. A delusion-less fact.


Prove to me that reincarnation does not exist.

I don't see any proof that we have souls or any way to transport the arguable part that is us from one body or system to another, especially through death, so based on the fact there's not much backing that up I don't think it's likely. I doubt that when someone dies a magical force from another dimension comes and removes this invisible component and puts it somewhere else instantly. I mean, if your god or whatever you believe gave people these souls why would it need to hide them? There's no proof or anything backing up the existence of souls, as far as most believers are concerned they're invisible things inside the body that contain what is you. I just don't see the logic in it.



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27 Sep 2008, 6:44 am

Can you disprove the existence of God or the soul? You talk about doing that but you can't actually do it.