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so europe hates both muslims AND jews now? man...they just want it all when it comes to the hate department, eh?

Mashallah, crackedpleasures!

Which country in the middle east do you plan to return to? ^^

I agree.

Yes, true. Most Muslims don't know who Mohammed Amin al=Hussayni was, however. He's an obscure figure in history, as far as Muslims are concerned. His involvement with Nazi Germany is mainly used by Zionists to justify their cause.

I have one question for them: How can the actions of one man, who'm most Muslims aren't even aware of, represent the actions of 1/5th of the world's population?

Btw, is the Qutb that oscuria mentioned Sayyid Qutb? Just started reading about him.

I'm not going to single out Islam for anything, but I will say this:

Fuck all the Abrahamic religions.

Yes, true. Most Muslims don't know who Mohammed Amin al=Hussayni was, however. He's an obscure figure in history, as far as Muslims are concerned. His involvement with Nazi Germany is mainly used by Zionists to justify their cause.

The appointment of the young al-Husseini as Mufti was a seminal event. Prior to his rise to power, there were active Arab factions supporting cooperative development of Palestine involving Arabs and Jews. But al-Husseini would have none of that; he was devoted to driving Jews out of Palestine, without compromise, even if it set back the Arabs 1000 years.

Using the turmoil of the Arab Revolt as cover, al-Husseini consolidated his control over the Palestinian Arabs with a campaign of murder against Jews and non-compliant Arabs, the recruitment of armed militias, and the raising of funds from around the Muslim world using anti-Jewish propaganda. In 1937 the Grand Mufti expressed his solidarity with Germany, asking the Nazi Third Reich to oppose establishment of a Jewish state, stop Jewish immigration to Palestine, and provide arms to the Arab population. Following an assassination attempt on the British Inspector-General of the Palestine Police Force and the murder by Arab extremists of Jews and moderate Arabs, the Arab Higher Committee was declared illegal by the British. The Grand Mufti lost his office of President of the Supreme muslim Council, his membership on the Waqf committee, and was forced into exile in Syria in 1937. The British deported the Arab mayor of Jerusalem along with other members of the Arab Higher Committee.

Yes, true. Most Muslims don't know who Mohammed Amin al=Hussayni was, however. He's an obscure figure in history, as far as Muslims are concerned. His involvement with Nazi Germany is mainly used by Zionists to justify their cause.

I have one question for them: How can the actions of one man, who'm most Muslims aren't even aware of, represent the actions of 1/5th of the world's population?

Btw, is the Qutb that oscuria mentioned Sayyid Qutb? Just started reading about him.

How many Iranians still remember the CIA removal of the PM over 40 years ago? How many Americans do, or even care?

I meant to do this earlier but I forgot. It's discussed in this thread that generally if there's a thread criticizing Christianity, it's left untouched but if there's a thread criticizing Islam, the moderators delete it. If that's true the moderators will delete this thread and I suppose our Christian members have a reason to be pissed, but if not you have a thread that's available for you to post your criticisms or disagreements of Islam in. I really just wanted to get a thread out but I'll post a few small arguments and some larger ones later on.

Many Muslims think the fact that the Qu'ran has less contradictions than the Bible makes it more reliable. For the record, the Bible was apparently written by over 40 people while the Qu'ran was written by one person. One person versus forty is going to show a large decrease in contradictions, that's common sense. And the main thing I find crazy about Islam is the Qu'ran. That has got to be among the most violent books ever written. And beyond that, you want to say Islam is the religion of peace? "When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives." -- Holy Qu'ran, Sura xlvii.4. Strike my head off? That's very peaceful. Then I don't even need to go on about the sexism as everyone knows where the Qu'ran stands on that issue.

Anyhow those who have criticisms to post, go ahead as that's the point of this thread.

In the name of the Almighty God, the Merciful, the Benevolent,

Firstly, The Quran is not written by one man. It has been composed by Allah (SWT). It has existed forever. It has no beginning, it has no end. The angel Gabriel (AHS) imparted the knowledge of the Quran to Muhammed (SAW).

Abdullah Yusuf Ali, interprets the verse (which you have mentioned) carefully as such:

Therefore, when ye meet
the unbelievers (in fight),
Smite at their necks;
At length, when ye have
Thoroughly subdued them,
Build a bond
Firmly (on them) : thereafter
(Is the time for) either
Generosity or ransom
Until the war lays down its burdens
Its burderns, Thus (are ye
Commanded) but if it
Had been God's Will,
He could certainly have exacted
Retribution from them (Himself);
But (He lets you fight)
In order to test you,
Some with others.
But those who are slain
In the way of God
He will never let
Their deeds be lost.

Jihad literally means a "holy struggle". In terms of war, Jihad in Islam is allowed only under two conditions - In self defence, and if the enemy oppresses Muslims from practicing their faith. This verse applies only under these conditions. If a Muslim wages war not under these terms, he has committed mass murder. Shirk, Murder, and Zina (rape) are the worst sins in Islam.

The Quran absolutely forbids killing prisoners of war, except under one condition: If the enemy is pagan, and had entered into an alliance with the Muslims, later backstabbed them (during a battle), and refused to surrender (during a siege) after the three holy months (Hajj, the month prior, and the month following - during these months, it's forbidden for Muslims to advance, only self-defence is allowed), then, it is justified to kill those who took part in the battle.

As for women in Islam, please read this: http://www.islamfortoday.com/women.htm

May Allah (SWT) correct your misconceptions. Ameen.



?? Allah (SWT) will judge him on the day of judgement. On the day he dies, if he was truly sinful, his punishment shall begin in his grave.

I am atheist but I adore Islamic arts. I even attended an Arabesque concert yesterday night. I adore visiting Mosques, listening to Islamic chants, Arab arts in general. I also have the Quran at home and while being not religious, I do think Islam is the religion that somewhat makes more sense than the others to me personally. I respect anyones believes however.

I despite the islamophobia going on in Europe and the far right propaganda using Muslims as new scapegoats. If I realise in my native country an islamophobic party gets 20 percent of votes, I feel deep shame. I have lived in Turkey and although this is not the typical muslim society (Istanbul definitely istn, and that is where I lived) I felt more welcome than in any of the other 5 countries I resided in.

If anyone wants to bash Islam, fine, but I will stand up against any irrational comments against Islam. I am sick and tired of the racist abuse Muslims are getting here in Europe and have often gone into debates in political forums to defend Muslims whenever some idiot is trying to provocate and spread messages of hatred against Muslims.

I am atheist but have a strong respect for Islam. I would love to emigrate back to the Middle East, only working permits stop me right now but I hope to fix that issue in the not very distant future and find my way back eastward.

so europe hates both muslims AND jews now? man...they just want it all when it comes to the hate department, eh?