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11 Jan 2009, 2:01 pm

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God has three nipples, I think :? I bet he keeps them locked away in a special nipple box.


this is a theological argument and should be treated with all seriousness :? . if one is a believer in the Bible one must believe in a God that is a nippled creature. or should I say, a nippled creator. no need to poke fun at our Christian friends' beliefs.

:P

How about the penis?


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11 Jan 2009, 2:04 pm

greenblue wrote:
How about the penis?

What about it?



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11 Jan 2009, 2:53 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
greenblue wrote:
How about the penis?

What about it?


it recieves BBC radio 4



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11 Jan 2009, 3:09 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
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How about the penis?

What about it?

God's gender and the aspect of that very nature, regarding theological and ontological arguments.


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11 Jan 2009, 3:12 pm

^^ it's from where the rain come from....



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11 Jan 2009, 3:15 pm

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^^ it's from where the rain come from....

Perhaps, but let's not confuse that some things that fall from the sky are actually from doves. :P


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11 Jan 2009, 3:33 pm

greenblue wrote:
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^^ it's from where the rain come from....

Perhaps, but let's not confuse that some things that fall from the sky are actually from doves. :P


its true, thats why they say "its pissing with rain"



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11 Jan 2009, 6:11 pm

slowmutant wrote:
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wouldnt they say we were made in gods image? Maybe god uses them for things he didnt give people powers for, perhaps he uses his man-nipples for radio reception?


Man-nipples are a vestige of our beginnigs as female. I've heard that all human embryos are inherently female and that it takes a certain hormone at a certain developmental stage to make us male.


Gain enough weight and that can start undoing itself as well, particularly in the formation of male mammary glands 8O


Male mammary glands (gynomastia) does not a woman make. No, it would require some serious Frankensteinian medical science to turn a "He into "she." And even then it's not an actual transformation, just the illusion of one. And an unconvincing illusion at that.


Not my point, its not a 100% reversal and a 100% reversal can't really happen on its own. Just saying its more power to your claim and its brought on by thinning of certain hormones.



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11 Jan 2009, 6:15 pm

greenblue wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
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How about the penis?

What about it?

God's gender and the aspect of that very nature, regarding theological and ontological arguments.


This is something I've often argued about in religion as to why a god would need to be a certain gender if they are not of flesh and can procreate without having sex.

Why a penis and if a penis who did he poke it with...... :?


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11 Jan 2009, 6:38 pm

I believe God has masculine and feminine qualities --yin and yang-- but is neither male or female. An infinite Self wihch contains all other selves.



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12 Jan 2009, 2:43 am

^^ in Islam God is genderless (even if he's referred to He) but I dunno why "he"'s so sexist :P.



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12 Jan 2009, 3:51 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
^^ in Islam God is genderless (even if he's referred to He) but I dunno why "he"'s so sexist :P.


It's not God, it's the Islamic religion built around Him that is sexist.



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15 Jan 2009, 2:37 am

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My questions was directed to Creationists, those who don't admit in evolution's existence and those who believe in the young earth.


I doubt we have any such silly extremists on this forum...


This is the new arguement taken up by 'liberal' theists, that YEC's are obviously stupid extremists Trouble is there are plenty of YECs out there. More importantly YEC ism was the standard view when Darwin published his thesis, in fact creationism was so entrenched that Darwin postponed publishing his work for over 20 years because he feared the backlash.

Theists continually revise their beliefs as new scientific discoveries throw the accepted religious doctrine into doubt, this has been going on for centuries. The last lifeboat for theism is simply ' God is the creator of the universe and you cant disprove it'. Even if science can prove how the universe came into being they will retreat further and state 'ahh but what caused that'

Evolution is a major kick in the balls for religion because it destroys so many previous religious 'Truths'


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15 Jan 2009, 2:41 am

slowmutant wrote:
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^^ in Islam God is genderless (even if he's referred to He) but I dunno why "he"'s so sexist :P.


It's not God, it's the Islamic religion built around Him that is sexist.

I'm pretty sure the God of all three abrahamic religions are sexist towards the male side. All the texts basically display that quite well.


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15 Jan 2009, 3:39 pm

slowmutant wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
^^ in Islam God is genderless (even if he's referred to He) but I dunno why "he"'s so sexist :P.


It's not God, it's the Islamic religion built around Him that is sexist.


Muhammad wrote the Qu'ran based on what Allah told him to write.
So this does make god sexist.


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15 Jan 2009, 6:39 pm

well, wether to say if God is sexist or not, take this into account:
- He made man in his own image.
- He saw man was alone, so he made a companion for him, from one of his ribs, not from the dust as was the case with Adam. Therefore, God must be male if he created a human male first, and in his own image.
- He made the first female human, because of the male, for the sake of the male, to have companionship so he won't be lonely, not becuase of her sake.
- Women get pregnant, they have to carry a child for nine months and give birth to them, they have to nurse them for a while, these biological factors that favor men over women, could be said to be because God is male, and certainly not feminist.
- Penalty for desobedience were that women have to suffer pain with labor, also later they became objects of temptation for making men to fall for the greatest sin of all, sex.


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