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16 Jan 2009, 10:57 am

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I've believed in reincarnation all my life but not so sure anymore. There are 2 problems with it.
The soul. And linear time.

What soul? We are a mass of gelatinous goo tied to bones with muscle and tendons that is seventy percent water. Rejoice in what we are, not in what we wish we were.

ruveyn

Give it up, ruveyn. These people are either kidding or slightly nuts. There is no way you can convince them to think clearly and logically.

I'm slightly kidding, maybe a little bit nuts. But if I were nothing more tha gelatinous goo tied to bones and muscle that is %70 water ... I don't understand how I could have lived my life or had any of my experiences. I find the above description overlooks almost everything of what it meas to be human.

When I observe the daily brutality, stupidity, ignorance, selfishness of the bulk of the human race I am not particularly anxious to be human.

Too bad. You're human.

What makes you think I am?

A giant hemhorroid. :wink:

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16 Jan 2009, 11:00 am

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

alba wrote:

I've believed in reincarnation all my life but not so sure anymore. There are 2 problems with it.
The soul. And linear time.

What soul? We are a mass of gelatinous goo tied to bones with muscle and tendons that is seventy percent water. Rejoice in what we are, not in what we wish we were.

ruveyn

Give it up, ruveyn. These people are either kidding or slightly nuts. There is no way you can convince them to think clearly and logically.

When I observe the daily brutality, stupidity, ignorance, selfishness of the bulk of the human race I am not particularly anxious to be human.

Too bad. You're human.

What makes you think I am?

A giant hemhorroid. :wink:

I'm sorry you have such a monster to consult. Tell it it's wrong and I'd advise you to have it removed.

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16 Jan 2009, 11:29 am

What if I told you this giant pustule was not attached to my body?

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16 Jan 2009, 11:37 am

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What if I told you this giant pustule was not attached to my body?

Goodness gracious. No wonder you flee to superstitions to salve your mind. It's your room mate. Move out!

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16 Jan 2009, 11:45 am

Seriously though, I think there might be something to this reincarnation business. Ask a Buddhist or a Hindu.

Be open-minded.

Consider all possibilities.

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16 Jan 2009, 11:53 am

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Seriously though, I think there might be something to this reincarnation business. Ask a Buddhist or a Hindu.

There is no "seriously though" about reincarnation. The concept is too ludicrous to consider.

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16 Jan 2009, 12:04 pm

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Seriously though, I think there might be something to this reincarnation business. Ask a Buddhist or a Hindu.

There is no "seriously though" about reincarnation. The concept is too ludicrous to consider.

Not to me it isn't.

Death and rebirth can happen within a single lifetime. A person can be born as Brian Warner, die, and then by reborn as Marlyin Manson.

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16 Jan 2009, 12:20 pm

slowmutant wrote:

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Seriously though, I think there might be something to this reincarnation business. Ask a Buddhist or a Hindu.

There is no "seriously though" about reincarnation. The concept is too ludicrous to consider.

Not to me it isn't.

Death and rebirth can happen within a single lifetime. A person can be born as Brian Warner, die, and then by reborn as Marlyin Manson.

No. The concept is dependent upon the idea that there is something immaterial in humans that carries the personality independently of the body. There has never been any convincing evidence of this - convincing to me that is. I have very little idea what goes on in your mind but what you have exhibited appears as pure fantasy to me.

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16 Jan 2009, 12:29 pm

Sand wrote:

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Sand wrote:

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Seriously though, I think there might be something to this reincarnation business. Ask a Buddhist or a Hindu.

There is no "seriously though" about reincarnation. The concept is too ludicrous to consider.

Not to me it isn't.

Death and rebirth can happen within a single lifetime. A person can be born as Brian Warner, die, and then by reborn as Marlyin Manson.

And there's nothing wrong with that, is there?

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16 Jan 2009, 12:38 pm

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

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Seriously though, I think there might be something to this reincarnation business. Ask a Buddhist or a Hindu.

There is no "seriously though" about reincarnation. The concept is too ludicrous to consider.

Not to me it isn't.

Death and rebirth can happen within a single lifetime. A person can be born as Brian Warner, die, and then by reborn as Marlyin Manson.

And there's nothing wrong with that, is there?

Hell no. Have A good time daydreaming. It's just not my can of soup.

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16 Jan 2009, 12:52 pm

I'm not exactly the New Age hippie type.

When I daydream, it's usually about what it would be like to exist as a glob of gelatin tied to muscles and bones.

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16 Jan 2009, 1:08 pm

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I'm not exactly the New Age hippie type.

When I daydream, it's usually about what it would be like to exist as a glob of gelatin tied to muscles and bones.

Well, it's dangerous not to be specific. Are you raspberry jello or a kind of chocolate pudding or something a bit more complicated like an octopus (which has very little bone) or a scorpion which has lots of other interesting stuff attached? It helps to be specific.

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16 Jan 2009, 5:17 pm

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

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Seriously though, I think there might be something to this reincarnation business. Ask a Buddhist or a Hindu.

There is no "seriously though" about reincarnation. The concept is too ludicrous to consider.

Not to me it isn't.

Death and rebirth can happen within a single lifetime. A person can be born as Brian Warner, die, and then by reborn as Marlyin Manson.

The issue of reincarnation is that it's total poppycock. What on earth is even being reincarnated? Continuity of identity clearly fails by its very premises. You'd have to posit some diaphanous "essence" or some such which by it's ill defined nature means practically nothing, and what it could mean sounds no better than saying I've been reincarnated when worms eat my body and use the raw materials to create new worms.

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16 Jan 2009, 7:18 pm

"Some diaphanous essence" is exactly what's being posited.

The soul, or more precisely, the karma.

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16 Jan 2009, 11:28 pm

slowmutant wrote:

"Some diaphanous essence" is exactly what's being posited.

The soul, or more precisely, the karma.

Gullible

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16 Jan 2009, 11:43 pm

Sand wrote:

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"Some diaphanous essence" is exactly what's being posited.

The soul, or more precisely, the karma.

Gullible

I prefer "open-minded."

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