Do you believe in the New World Order?

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Which New world order?

Have to agree on that one. Mr. Gore was very concerned about ppl using energy and therefore causing global warming.
He was not concern about him alone, used the amount of energy enough to run a small city.
Seriously, There might be a global warming or not. Whatever these f*****s try to say, it's not man made! That part of the story is solemly added as a purpose to raise carbon taxes, wich in due time, will give all the energy into the hands of the wealtiest, who are concerned that they won't get enough. Making energy expensive, will exlude about 80-90% of the worlds population from using it. That's what we start to see now. They shout;"GLOBAL WARMING!" and ppl are running like headless chicken, thinking that they can make a difference. They who don't go along with this stupid theory are treated like traitors.
I dare to remind ppl that we have had cold and warm periods on this planet as long as they can dig back in time. It's no more than a couple of hundred years ago that we had what's called the little ice age. They say that global warming causes extreme weather, but the extreme weather conditions during the little ice age, has yet to be met by what we call extreme today.
Before that period there was a quite warm period. My ancessors, the vikings, was farming on Greenland! I dare anyone try to do so today. I have a theory that the conditions back then was normal, if one can call anything normal, regarding to climate, and that the little ice age is not yet over.
Regardless of what any experts says, it's not normal that we shall freeze our asses off during the winter

I moved this to PPR, from General Autism, because, other than the third word in the OP being "aspergers" (sp), it had utterly nothing to do with autism.

For my contribution: conspiracy theories are silly.

(Oh! Of course I would say that, as I'm one of the ruling elite.)

Which NWO? There have been several since humans adapted the agricultural mode of existence. Once we got out of the hunter-gatherer phase societies have become hierarchical with authority and power at the top of the structure. The folks at the bottom see everything as being arranged and plotted by those at the top, which is not all that far from the truth.

The idea of a central kabal is a well assimilated meme in the thinking of many. If something happens it is because They arranged it.


ruveyn

Nationalism is a emotion - but may we have really a look into the US-Constitution. The US-Constitution is one few constitution which gives a particular reason-d'etre: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

This are rational goals, but a rational goal must be always subject to rational critic. The specific issue with nationalism is that it is irrational, emotional ("I love my country." "Treas, when showing flags, songs which appeal to emotions etc. pp.).

A national government is at the end an institution like any other institution; with some purposes and some shortcomings. To abolish national governments at all shall be less a question of principle or ideology, but of practical means. It is just the question on which level administration can be done best.

mosez has it right, before 700 the vikings were northern farmers, and poets.

By the trees, the clothing in graves, it was as warm as southern France is now.

Cold drove them to migrate south, and while the peak may have been 1100-1300, Norway is still a lot colder than pre-700.

Our hottest years do not reach what was the normal before 700.

Global Cooling is the problem. Going back one big ice wave, 25,000 years ago there were a lot of people living along the north Siberian Arctic coast. It was a temperate climate.

Unless you want to claim a really old and powerful NWO, it just happened.

Now enslaving the masses for profit can be fun, and I could see starting a private club for the purpose.

I would not want all the masses, just enough to staff a corporation, and they can be kept as slaves by telling them how bad the slaves at other corporations have it, and there is the threat of them being dismissed from slavery.

The idea of a few great monied families is doubtful, they do not produce ruling blood lines, they produce Trust Babies who never work. Then they want more money, and invest the trust into Mortgage Backed Securities, and before that Russian Investment, Or the Internet Bubble, and trust babies do not last.

Big money with the best advisors went with Madoff, Enron, Worldcom.

Greed and ignorance run the world, the future is made up day at a time, based on current needs.

Our current need is in the banks who have lost their capital, they should close, sell off the parts, and be unemployed. Instead they hide the books, go deeper in the hole, destroy the larger economy, because their paychecks can continue, and getting another job is hard now.

Greed runs the world, and it is dumb and short sighted.

We have not lost the Constitution, it was the Idea of an ideal world, and the reality of the people of the time was very different. Ideas are powerful for they are a goal to work toward.

All governments face the same problem, shall we spread freedom, prosperity, and knowledge over the people, or shall we line our own pockets? The answer has always been the same.

Obama was elected on a platform of ending the war, bringing the troops home, and reducing the national debt. Now he is sending the troops to Afganistan, and pushing the largest bill ever through Congress. This is the guy who said he would go over spending line by line, now he wants to sign a single one Trillion dollar Bill?

Perhaps the NWO is making him do this, or maybe he is just a crook from Chicago.

We still hold the ideal, which lacks only as garyww put it, "real people."

Free people acting together out of enlightened self interest.

The goal still stands waiting.

Good luck, chum. The Power Elite has the guns and they control the data bases.

Our only hope is total breakdown and if that happens a lot of people are going to die before their time.

ruveyn

The NWO is a organized crime group that controls the political, financial and corporate agenda. Their goal is global communist government, a zero growth economy based on the idea of 'sustainable development', a global population of 500 million to 1 billion, a stringent resource rationing system and heavy use of state surveillance. At this head of the New World Order, is the British/European Royal families who believe they are descendants of King David of Israel and a Anglo-Israeli-Zionist mafia.

This Kabal exists in your head.

ruveyn

OTOH - maybe he's a member of the club? That would mean he does know what their aims are. The membership could be just unity, of course.

And yet dynasties with vast yet secret wealth are very real. What is to stop them from uniting for more power and profit, other than greed?

Deadly weapons. Vast but secret wealth does one no good if he is dead.

ruveyn

If they are a the head of a worldwide conspiracy than this conspiracy can't be very dangerous. HM The Queen just made a begging to parliament to grant Her some founds to keep Buckingham Palace in decent state.

Regarding the "decent" of the European Royal families, have a lot into a history book. The most of this families have quite obscure ancestors. In the very best cases they could be traced down to the female line of the Carolingian or the Ottonians, in the most cases they were promoted much later from more or less important local nobility.

I opened my mind to the idea of a NWO when I started reading David Icke's books.The trouble
with an open mind however is that you need to have a filter,otherwise all kinds of weird and
wonderful theories will flood your mind,forming tenuous connections.I think that's what
happened to David Icke - he started off with very informative research into ancient history
and plausible connections between the classical gods and goddesses,elite bloodlines and secret societies etc that still exist. Then he became convinced that the elite bloodlines are all
shape-shifting satanic-worshipping reptiles and that everyone and everything is only holograms,not solid matter (in which case the reptiles are not real either ! )
It certainly demonstrates that you can find connections and form conspiracy theories if you
have a vivid imagination and attach deeper meanings to everything.
The truth is probably that people act either in selfish or altruistic ways,sometimes a combination of both,and the outcome for the world as a whole depends on what the balance is.

Smug and incorrect. The Club of Rome, the Bilderbergs, the Council of Foreign Relations, all real organizations...all working for the same cause. Many of the relatives of the British/European Royals were in fact members of the Third Reich - this is verifiable fact. The same man who set up notorious hitler youth schools emigrated to the UK and set up schools specifically designed for British Royals to attend (Gordonstoun). Another fact - every US President is directly related the British Royalty including Obama. The British Royal family are very powerful, if this was not the case why does the UK even still have them because they serve no purpose? The British Empire never died, it just changed and became more subversive.

My opinion of David Icke - he believes what he is saying is true. However, he has been programmed by the British SIS to act as a disinformation and mix truth with fiction and generally discredit anyone who tries to see beyond the smoke and mirrors. There are no aliens from another dimension running the planet. The same thing happened to David Shayler who spilled the beans over 9/11. All of a sudden he started raving that he was the son of God. Someone had messed with him upstairs. Brainwashing is real.

Go on then. Verify away.